Solve : insufficient memory in Windows 98?

1.	Solve : insufficient memory in Windows 98?
Answer» To all of you kind and helpful types who tried to help me get past a really bad Win98 install ...patio, willyW, ianbell, Broni, Sid, Daniel1212, quaxo... Thanks. I really appreciate all of you. Unfortunately, sometimes you just have to admit it when you're licked. I'm licked. A couple of times I got so frustrated trying to get WIN98 to behave that I started to smack the COMPUTER around. How pointless is that? WENT out and got a bootable XP CD and had the little sucker humming like a top on the first try. Even got it to work with my full 2 gigs of RAM. All the drivers for my graphics card and motherboard are loaded up and work just as they're supposed to. Thanks again, folks. Good to hear you are up and running...stop by anytime !I just wanted to thank you people for all your wealth of information. I was stumped and I had the same error message for insufficient memory after I loaded 98. I just took out 1 stick of memory and it ran fine. I had 2 Gig dropped to 1. Thanx, Cindy TessierThat's certainly good news and Welcome to CH ! !Quote from: Broni on January 13, 2008, 08:52:08 PM I asked, because... That's the error, when you have 1GB, or more RAM installed on Windows 98: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/184447 Of course, it can be done only by Micro$oft, to give you an error about Insufficient memory, while actually, you have too much of it...LOL I had the Windows 98 startup problem with 2 GB of ram and the advice in the link above solved it for me, i.e., adding "MaxPhysPage=30000" to the [386Enh] section of system.ini. (I had previously tried removing half the ram, but then the machine wouldn't even boot the BIOS for some reason.) Unfortunately I still had the problem of not being able to open a DOS window, so I had to add a MaxFileCache entry in the [VCache] section of system.ini, as discussed at this link which was also posted EARLIER in the thread: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/253912. I used a value of 262144. (I couldn't use 524288 because that caused a new startup problem.) A MinFileCache entry turned out not to be necessary, but I did have to remove the fixed paging file size I was previously using for virtual memory, and let Windows manage that on its own. That, in combination with the MaxFileCache entry did the trick for the DOS windows. So now I can run my legacy games again! My Computer Mainboard Gigabyte G41, CPU Core Due 3.0, RAM 2GB, I install Win98SE but I see error Quit one or more memory-resident...I search error throught google and I try follow guide some forum but not ok! I think install Win98SE have more option install. I try command (example): C:\win98Se\Setup /? and I try: Setup /im ---> yeah ok I install Win98SE success with 2GB! My English is bad because I'm Vietnamese Quote from: tuannvbg on June 09, 2010, 10:34:19 PM My Computer Mainboard Gigabyte G41, CPU Core Due 3.0, RAM 2GB, I install Win98SE but I see error Quit one or more memory-resident...I search error throught google and I try follow guide some forum but not ok! I think install Win98SE have more option install. I try command (example): C:\win98Se\Setup /? and I try: Setup /im ---> yeah ok I install Win98SE success with 2GB! My English is bad because I'm Vietnamese Please start your own topic.I found I was still having problems after applying the fixes above, so I ended up using another solution: Virtual PC 2004, which is available FREE from Microsoft: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyId=6D58729D-DFA8-40BF-AFAF-20BCB7F01CD1&displaylang=en You install this under a later operating system, such as Windows 2000 or XP, and it lets you specify how much RAM the virtual PC will have available to it, which solves the problem. I used the 2004 version because it runs under Windows XP, but later versions are available too. There are a number of legacy games that I was able to get running this way, with a couple of exceptions. Here is an article that has a table showing compatiblility of various versions with various operating systems, and links for where to download them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Virtual_PC I found this set of instructions helpful: http://www.metzomagic.com/showArticle.php?fileName=/int/help/VirtualPC2007FAQ.html&articleType=Steves+XP+Games+Corner&title=metzomagic.com+Virtual+PC+2007+FAQ I installed both Windows 95 and 98 using those instructions, but with 95 it was also necessary to apply the second tip from this blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/virtual_pc_guy/archive/2005/02/15/372846.aspx

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To all of you kind and helpful types who tried to help me get past a really bad Win98 install ...patio, willyW, ianbell, Broni, Sid, Daniel1212, quaxo... Thanks.
I really appreciate all of you.
Unfortunately, sometimes you just have to admit it when you're licked. I'm licked. A couple of times I got so frustrated trying to get WIN98 to behave that I started to smack the COMPUTER around. How pointless is that?
WENT out and got a bootable XP CD and had the little sucker humming like a top on the first try. Even got it to work with my full 2 gigs of RAM. All the drivers for my graphics card and motherboard are loaded up and work just as they're supposed to.
Thanks again, folks. Good to hear you are up and running...stop by anytime !I just wanted to thank you people for all your wealth of information. I was stumped and I had the same error message for insufficient memory after I loaded 98. I just took out 1 stick of memory and it ran fine. I had 2 Gig dropped to 1.

Thanx,

Cindy TessierThat's certainly good news and Welcome to CH ! !Quote from: Broni on January 13, 2008, 08:52:08 PM

I asked, because...
That's the error, when you have 1GB, or more RAM installed on Windows 98: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/184447
Of course, it can be done only by Micro$oft, to give you an error about Insufficient memory, while actually, you have too much of it...LOL

I had the Windows 98 startup problem with 2 GB of ram and the advice in the link above solved it for me, i.e., adding "MaxPhysPage=30000" to the [386Enh] section of system.ini. (I had previously tried removing half the ram, but then the machine wouldn't even boot the BIOS for some reason.)

Unfortunately I still had the problem of not being able to open a DOS window, so I had to add a MaxFileCache entry in the [VCache] section of system.ini, as discussed at this link which was also posted EARLIER in the thread: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/253912. I used a value of 262144. (I couldn't use 524288 because that caused a new startup problem.)

A MinFileCache entry turned out not to be necessary, but I did have to remove the fixed paging file size I was previously using for virtual memory, and let Windows manage that on its own. That, in combination with the MaxFileCache entry did the trick for the DOS windows.

So now I can run my legacy games again! My Computer Mainboard Gigabyte G41, CPU Core Due 3.0, RAM 2GB, I install Win98SE but I see error Quit one or more memory-resident...I search error throught google and I try follow guide some forum but not ok! I think install Win98SE have more option install. I try command (example): C:\win98Se\Setup /? and I try: Setup /im ---> yeah ok I install Win98SE success with 2GB! My English is bad because I'm Vietnamese Quote from: tuannvbg on June 09, 2010, 10:34:19 PM

My Computer Mainboard Gigabyte G41, CPU Core Due 3.0, RAM 2GB, I install Win98SE but I see error Quit one or more memory-resident...I search error throught google and I try follow guide some forum but not ok! I think install Win98SE have more option install. I try command (example): C:\win98Se\Setup /? and I try: Setup /im ---> yeah ok I install Win98SE success with 2GB! My English is bad because I'm Vietnamese

Please start your own topic.I found I was still having problems after applying the fixes above, so I ended up using another solution: Virtual PC 2004, which is available FREE from Microsoft:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyId=6D58729D-DFA8-40BF-AFAF-20BCB7F01CD1&displaylang=en

You install this under a later operating system, such as Windows 2000 or XP, and it lets you specify how much RAM the virtual PC will have available to it, which solves the problem. I used the 2004 version because it runs under Windows XP, but later versions are available too. There are a number of legacy games that I was able to get running this way, with a couple of exceptions.

Here is an article that has a table showing compatiblility of various versions with various operating systems, and links for where to download them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Virtual_PC

I found this set of instructions helpful:

http://www.metzomagic.com/showArticle.php?fileName=/int/help/VirtualPC2007FAQ.html&articleType=Steves+XP+Games+Corner&title=metzomagic.com+Virtual+PC+2007+FAQ

I installed both Windows 95 and 98 using those instructions, but with 95 it was also necessary to apply the second tip from this blog:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/virtual_pc_guy/archive/2005/02/15/372846.aspx

Solve : insufficient memory in Windows 98?

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