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Solve : How many of you are following NBA Playoffs and which team are you supporting??

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Hey GUYS, I am a huge NBA fan and thought there must be more here. So, please chip in and tell me about who do you think is gonna win this year? Cavs...though i doubt they can repeat without PLAYING any defense...

TRULY sad what happened with the Celtics.

BTW...shock prediction...Warriors do Not win the West...you heard it here 1st...Lol! That really is a shocker what you said about GSW! Cavs definitely can win the thing. I don't know why but I wanna Spurs nearing to the SPOT this year what are your thoughts about that?

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Solve : Numismatics?

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Been part of the group here for over 10 years now and never posted anything way off subject before, so I figured it WOULD be an interesting chat maybe to chat about numismatics. I have been collecting and buying and selling US & World Coins since I was 8 years old.

Anyone else here collect and have any cool true stories? 


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Myself, I have been in Numismatic News before when finding quite the find and reporting it to an editor that likes people to share their finds etc. At first I thought it would be cool to share this with others as for I have seen others share there neat treasure finds too. But I actually had a few months of people sharing negative comments on "Ethics" of being a numismatist.

Back about 12 years ago I bought a bunch of Morgan Silver Dollars for $7 to $9 each. I bought them in bulk from a pile of them that were on a plate in a coin dealers case. Silver was cheap and they seemed like a bargain, so I bought up almost all of them that were better grade of VF or better. I didnt look at the dates and mint marks. I figured I would buy them and look for VAM's and whatever is common is just common but still would be better vs just saving .999 silver bars that have no premium over bullion value. When looking through them on christmas eve of 2006, I saw that one of the Morgan silver dollars had a date of not 1883 which is common but instead 1893. I flipped the coin over to see the mint mark and it was "S" for San Francisco. I almost dropped the coin when I saw that mint mark as for its the rarest minted for circulation morgan dollar ever minted with only 100,000 struck. My Red Book price guide had a value of $2300 for VF and an asterisk that stated that counterfeits exist. So then my excitement calmed because I figured it must be a counterfeit and thats why it was in with the common morgans.

I went back to the dealer that I bought it from to have him examine it and see what he thought about it. I didnt tell him that I bought it through him as for I didnt want him freak out that he sold that as a common coin by accident etc. I showed it to him and he was examining it and he said he will give me $1500 for it right now. I told him I dont want to sell it as for my grandfather gave me some coins and this was loose in with the other coins. He looked at the mint mark with a stereo microscope to see if the S was added and he said it looks to be genuine. He told me that I should get it slabbed. I asked him what grade he thinks it is. He said VG-8, maybe VG-10 because of the dings to rim and the scratch on the obverse. I said it had VF details so I was thinking maybe F-12 or F-15.

So I sent it out to ANACS and they slabbed it as genuine and graded it as VF Details - F-15 Grade. This placed the coin in the $3500 range retail. I held onto it for about 6 months and then my wife had a car that was a death trap a 1999 Kia Sophia that the seat belts would disconnect by themselves when driving down the road and it was a piece of junk car. My daughter was almost 2 years old and so I saw a 2003 Mercury Sable Sedan for sale for $10,000 and ended up selling the 1893-S VF Details net F-15 ANACS slabbed silver dollar to a different dealer that I knew I negotiated with having lunch at his daughters restaurant. My daughter was with me in a stroller and we were talking coins and he originally said $1900. I said I am a knowledgeable collector and know that I can get $3150 for it through another dealer as for I did have another offer and I brought that with me to show that I was not bluffing and it was the truth. He saw that and said that he needed the 1893-S King Morgan to complete his set of morgans. And so he said how about $3100. I said... how about $3150 with a smile. He smiled back and said sure. He was a nice older man in his 70s and he was wealthy owning multiple local businesses in a rich town nearby. I knew that the extra $50 was like negotiating for an extra penny to be paid by him and that he would probably go for $3150. He enjoyed the interaction with my daughter to, and I told him thanks for buying the coin. He asked why i sold it after he bought it because its going to go up in value. I said that my wifes car is a death trap and i needed to get a safer vehicle for my daughter and her and so this will help on the down payment for a newer, larger, safer car. He stated your correct in family is more important than wealth. He said that he was going to pay for my lunch there and I said how about I pay for his. He smiled and said that this is his daughters restaurant. You made my day today and please enjoy the free lunch. I said thank you and ate and fed my daughter and he left after a firm handshake and a smile. The check was good, I knew it would be because of how wealthy this man is. Anyone else I would have demanded cash in hand.

So time to file my taxes and had to claim the $3142 profit. Uncle Sam loves short-term gains. OUCH $900 in taxes to be paid for the $3142 profit. 

Then my wife was driving home from work one night around 8pm. She was waiting to turn left at a red light onto the highway. A car approached her fast and slammed into the rear end of the 2003 Mercury Sable 4-door Sedan and it was a drunk driver! Police estimated the speed of the Toyota Corolla to be 55 mph when striking my wife who was sitting at the red light. Both cars were stuck together and they had to use 2 wreckers to tug of war to separate them. When I was called to the accident the 2003 Mercury Sable was nose to asphalt and rear end up in the air with the trunk of the car completely destroyed and rear axle shoved forward into the gas tank. The Toyota Corolla was trapped under the Mercury Sable as for it struck and went under the Mercury Sable after obliterating the trunk with the force of a 55 MPH Corolla into a parked Mercury Sable.

Fortunately my wife lived and just had to go to physical therapy for whiplash damage and the black and blues all over her shoulder and chest from the seat belt holding her in went away after a few weeks. The drivers seat broke on impact, so she took a hard hit even inside a mid-size car.

After this I thought..... what if I kept the 1893-S Morgan and didnt get her into a safer vehicle. If it was the 1999 Kia Sophia that took a hit like this, she probably would be dead. I knew I made the right choice.

So the "Ethics" issue in Numismatic News showed up quickly after I shared my find. People posting mostly negative responses about "Ethics" and how I should have gone back to the dealer and told him that I bought it through him. That I should never have gotten a coin worth that much for so little. That if the dealer knew what he was selling that he wouldnt have sold it at that price.

Then others responding about what about the poor old lady that likely came in to sell her husbands collection after he passed away and she may have gotten just $6 for that $8 silver dollar that was worth thousands.

There were a few people who praised it, but the negative responses were like none else I had ever seen in response to anyone elses treasure picking find shared there before. I was getting the Numismatic News by subscription and it got the the point that i would skip over the section because for 2 or 3 months it was complaints about ethics.

It would have been one thing if I was a dealer who ripped someone off knowingly, but the transaction was as unintentional as can be and still be a transaction. Buying blindly, knowing what your getting by seeing it, but not in any great detail to know that among that pile of silver dollars is the coin that serious collectors MUST HAVE to complete their collection and those who have a sweet tooth for KEYs want to add another duplicate of that specific Date/Mint coin to their collection.

In another Numismatic News, I shared the story about the good that became of selling this 1893-S Morgan for $3150. I shared pictures of the accident and how taking the money and getting her into a safer car likely saved her life. There were still some people really sore about the ethics of it all. Maybe they were dealers who while they didnt personally take the loss, felt bad for the dealer I dealt with who accidentally missed the rarest morgan silver dollar needle in a haystack.

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Other coins I have found and also sold for the profit of selling them vs holding onto them was the following coins:

1983 Double Die Reverse AU condition... Sold this on ebay 14 years ago. I picked it out of my dads change jug that he dumps his pocket change into. I said hey can i have this penny and he said sure. I said its worth a few hundred dollars. He was still ok with me taking it and selling it.

1998 and 2000 Wide-AM ( proof reverse die on circulation strike mint mishap variety ) Found 2 of the 1998 and 4 of the 2000 pennies with Wide-AM sold them for a easy $20 each. Sadly no rare 1999 Wide-AM found yet.

Bought $120 face value in the Peace ( Handshake Nickels ) when they came out from local bank. Then someone found a double die variety. I dug through a few rolls and didnt find the double die and the unopened rolls of these nickels went through the roof in price. I decided that instead of searching through the remaining $112 in nickels for these double dies that might not exist, that I should sell these unopened rolls and make that guaranteed profit instead. I decided that the 4 rolls of nickels that I opened was a good sampler to the lot of them that they were Later Die State Struck Coins. They werent early strikes and so the quality of their strikes was not the best but they were still unopened rolls. So I put them onto ebay at a starting bid of $150 for $112 face value in unopened rolls of these nickels with free shipping. They ended up selling for $728 to a guy in Florida. Minus the $30 shipping through FedX who had the better shipping rate for a metal box wrapped in duct tape containing $112 face value in nickels within a cardboard box with lots of padding material, I ended up making a nice chunk of change to help pay the bills.

At a dealer in NJ called R & R Coins in Closter, NJ as a 10 year old I saw a buffalo nickel that was in a 2x2 holder as a 1928-S VF. I pointed out to this dealer who I was friends with that its a 1926-S. He had a deal worked out with me prior because I was an eagle eye as he called me that if I found any mistakes that I would either get the coin for free or a really good deal on it or a reward of some kind. RAY was a really nice guy and a great dealer. I went weekly and spent what little i had on coins. He was also good on his word as for he looked it over under microscope  and sure enough I was correct it was a rare 1926-S Nickel in VF details. He smiled and said how about I charge you the $1.25 that the 1928-S holder says on it. I said sure, it was worth much more than $1.25. Later sold that on ebay when back in college for a nice profit.

In a 5 gallon bucket of foreign coins I bought from a dealer that was looking to get rid of the foreign junk as he called it, he said how about $20 for this bucket of foreign coins, I keep tripping over it. I asked if I could sample it first to see whats in it, he said sure. I reached in and grabbed a handful and looked at them coins all moving losely and saw some older coins that were of silver content mixed in with the mostly copper coins. Some nice large British Pennies from the teens and one with Victoria on it and I said sure $20 is a deal. I gave the dealer the $20 and lugged the what felt like 100 lbs of metal to my car. When i got home I was excited about this purchase and I sorted the coins quickly picking out my favorites from the mix the older British Coins, older Canadian Pennys from the late 1800s, some coins suspected of containing silver went into another pile, and then were some copper sliders. older coins worn so heavily that you had to get the light just right to see what they where. In the sliders I found a 1794 United States Large Cent that was barely recognizable as what it was. Liberty's Bust outline showed and the date showed when held at an angle. The edge of the penny had the lettering too which survived the test of time better than the surface of the coin. I ended up getting $200 for this penny, although i wish I kept it because they are costly to acquire. The edge was like this here: HTTP://4.bp.blogspot.com/-amCS-AaFaVU/Tpn5RI43I6I/AAAAAAAAAA4/e2N-62INWOc/s1600/1794+large+cent+edge+lettering.jpg ... So I made $180 and got a bunch of free foreign coins of which the older Canadian coins I sold some of them for even more money made in addition to the $180 that I was already in the plus on. The coins that I didnt care for, common and not worth much, I ended up donating to a Boy Scouts Coin Club that I heard about and paid the $20 shipping to send them to some kids to enjoy out in California.

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My Favorites:

I like so many different American Coins. I started off with Wheat Pennies in the late 1970s when they were more abundant in change, the reverse of the coin caught my eye and I saved them, but also occasionally spent them because I wanted that  bubblegum at 1 to 3 cents a piece etc. It wasnt until i was 8 years old that I became more responsible to actually collect and not spend old coins to buy candy etc.

My grandfather had a large collection of Prussian, Poland, German, and Russian coins from 1700s to early 1900s when my great grandfather game over to the USA as well as a large amount of early pre 1965 USA silver coins with so many silver half dollars, indian head pennies, and more. I saw this collection briefly when I was 10 years old. My grandfather passed away in 1982 and my aunt grabbed the collection quickly after he passed away. My cousin who was also my age brought it all out to show me in 1985. All I have is memories of this collection as for I havent seen it since. When asking aunt about it she acts like it doesnt exist yet she pulled it away from us quickly when we were looking through it that summer of 1985, and it hasnt been sold. It should have been split 3 ways between my grandfathers 3 kids. Buy she has it hidden somewhere. I'd so love to go through it to identify all the coins there. I grabbed one coin from this collection to show my dad that it existed still. A Poland Prussian 1839 15 Kopeck 1 Zloty dual-denomination for use in Poland or Russian economy made of silver. I was stupid and sold this coin when I was in college and hard up for cash. The person i sold it to for $20 refuses to sell it back to me even when offering $40. Its only worth about $25, but its just that I shouldnt have sold it and it was the only coin I had from my grandfathers collection. 

I enjoy world coins and I have made connections with others in other countries to pay American Money for them to send me coins from their country or trade coins by mail etc, although I havent done that for quite a while since the Euro coming into Europe took out the fun with getting coins from countries that prior to the Euro had coins that I enjoyed to collect even if not worth much. The Euros are boring universal coinage and to plain looking. I like the foreign coins that are 1970s and older that were made with better metals for the most part, however some countries used Zinc and those coins are sometimes ugly as sin when they are corroded. Its fine when they are grey and almost black, but pitted with white oxide is a sad sad zinc coin. I had some wartime German coins that were Zinc that saw better says and looked as if someone dug them up out of the ground pitted and porous such as some 10 Pfennig 1917 and other teens coins of Zinc as well as World War II Zinc coins when copper was needed for shell casings etc.

In addition to coins I also collect old paper money from around the world. Most of it not worth much, but its almost like low cost art. Plus lots of history in old paper money when inflation goes through the roof and a 1923 100,000 Mark Note might make someone who didnt know any better think you were rich until they find out that it was before a monetary collapse and reform in Germany when inflation went nuts. http://c8.alamy.com/comp/BHE5WX/money-finance-banknotes-germany-100000-mark-reichsbank-berlin-121923-BHE5WX.jpg
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Well enough said for now.. I could go on and on.... I also cherry pick coins from circulation although slim pickings. These days unless you buy say a $25.00 brick of pennies and get it when someone cleaned out their jug of old change, the wheat pennies dried up to about 5 found for every 2500 pennies searched. Wheat pennies from 1940-1958 are worth around 4 to 5 cents each if common and no errors etc. Those pre-1940 worth more and some of them bring sweet price tags when sold like 1914-D or 1909-S or 1909-S V.D.B, as well as almost every teen penny with a D or S in F or better you can make a few dollars or more on, but very unlikely to find these. I use to set specific dates off to the side and look a them for Double Dies and Proof Die on circulation cents, but its more time consuming than what you will ever make out of it. Sure you could find that ultra rare 1969-S Double Die Penny and have $40,000 or more, but all the 1969-S double die looking pennies i have found were machine doubling which is a sloppy coin press and no big premium. Occasionally I will check with banks to see if they have any half dollars. Sometimes I will get 40% and 90% silver half dollars or even proof "S" half dollars broken out of their sets and spent this way for 50 cents each. Then spend the common clad half dollars and hold onto the silver and lightly circulated proofs. 

Lately its been kind of whatever makes its way to me in change in transaction I might save that 1948-D Nickel for example thats heavily worn just because its a 1948-D however its so heavily worn its not really worth that much, but it doesnt cost hardly anything to keep it and maybe some day it will be sold in a roll of older jefferson nickels with mint marks that go at a small premium above that of Philadelphia which is more common. All the coin shops dried up out my way and those that continue to do business are now online where cost of running a business is cheaper and possibly safer from robbery. I miss the days of going into a shop and socializing with dealer and seeing what the deal of the day was and handling the coins and looking at them closely to make sure they are what they are and not cleaned, altered, or over graded etc.

Also I keep an eye to the Give-a-Penny, Take-a-Penny tray and if something in it catches my eye I will grab the 1898 Indian Head Penny that the clerk at the store thought was Canadian and put in a new shiny 2016 penny for it in trade 






Very interesting stories...made me think of something used frequently..."Caveat Emptor"...

What's Latin for "seller beware" ? ?Today the UK press has been running a story about a school which had been donated a piano which was made around 1900. They got around to having a tuner look at it. He thought the keys were a bit sluggish so he took them out and found some hand made and stitched bags underneath. They turned out to contain 903 gold sovereigns and half sovereigns dated between 1847 and 1915. They weighed more than 13 pounds. Nobody knows who put them there. Under British law a coroner's inquest was held to decide if it was "treasure", that is, hidden deliberately. The decision was that it was, and the piano tuner and the school will share the proceeds. Estimated value at auction around $400,000. This is nearly twice as much as the gold weight value, due to the interest by collectors in coins of this type, some stories say.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-39655769

Heard about this find back on Monday. I love reading stories like this. Last I knew they were trying to figure out the owner of the coins. I guess they gave up on that and split it between finder who did the right thing and shared what he found vs sneaking off with it and the school. Its nice that the piano tuner got half of it.

Only drawback to this is that all sorts of so-called family members come out of nowhere wanting you to share with them your sudden wealth like lottery winners.

Back about 12 years ago there was a story about some guys that dug up a bush in their back yard and found tin cans full of old cash in them. They claimed they were digging up a bush when their shovel struck a can and then to their surprise all of this cash was there. But anyone who lives in New England, USA knows that the ground is so moist that tin cans might last 10 years tops under ground before pin holes start to form and these cans from the 1920s were in too good of shape to be unearthed from the ground. They brought the stacks of old money which is worth way more beyond that of the face value to a local dealer in Massachusetts and then the police catching wind of this find went to investigate and it was found that these guys were contractors doing some roof work on an old home or barn, and found these cans tucked in a hidden area of the upper wall or ceiling which was exposed when ripping out the old roof to put new wood down. They relocated the money found and then botched a story of how it was found in their back yard. The current owners of the property by which this was stolen from was unaware of any wealth stashed in the home or barn. FBI then got involved to try to figure out of the money was linked to any old bank robberies in the area as for it was an unusual amount of cash in all denominations from $1 bills to $100 bills silver and gold certificates. And it was worth something like $100,000 for around $5000 face value.

As to what happened with the cash after these guys were all sent to prison is unknown. My guess is that the current owners of the property that was being serviced by these contractors would be given it all back. No taxes would have to be paid on it unless sold i would think.

These guys drew way too much attention to themselves and there were pictures with them with cash stuffed in their jackets etc. They should have done the right thing and tried for a 50/50 deal with the owner of the residence and property found.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-04-29-nh-treasure-scam_x.htm

http://archive.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/04/30/police_call_methuen_treasure_story_a_tall_tale/

My grandfather before he passed away told me about stories of finding money when he was doing work around peoples homes in New Jersey in the 1950s thru the 1970s before he retired. The 2 stories he shared was that he struck a glass jar full of change under a bush that the current resident wanted to have removed with a shovel. Not a lot of money just silver dimes and quarters that someone back during the depression buried back when banks were not trusted, paper money was about as trusted as toilet paper, and everyone wanted silver and gold coins to protect their money instead of paper. Then Gold was illegal to hold and you had to turn in gold coins or else face jail and $10,000 fine with the Gold Confiscation Act of 1933 so some people hid gold coins, but most turned them in for fear of jail and the heavy penalty. More info here on that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102

The 2nd story was similar to the first, but he found a glass jar in a compartment in the cement steps of this other home that he was busting up with a sledge hammer and to replace it with new mason work. The filler that was used for the steps had a glass jar in it towards the side, so that the knowingly original owner of the money would know later when wanting to retrieve it to beat out a certain area of the steps and the jar would then be accessed to get the money. It was all silver coins in a large pickle type of jar. The original owner of the coins likely pulled their money out of the bank in the form of silver and didnt trust it to be loose in their home which could be stolen and so they made their own bank by sealing their wealth in cement work of the steps. But the current owner was not the original owner, but that my grandfather was given a reward from that owner for finding it, but I wasnt told how much money or if he did say how much money, I forgot that detail. Maybe he got 50% of the coins for himself. 

In Chicago about 8 years ago there was money found hidden in the form of cash from between 1935 and 1957 behind a mirror in the bathroom of a home. It was found when the current owner was updating the long out of date bathroom appearance.

I bought a cheap metal detector 10 years ago and went looking for coins. Found some common change from the 1950s to date, tons of pull tabs, nails, screws, a horse shoe, cap gun from 1950s or 60s about 2 feet down and a cast iron plate to a fireplace dated patented 1857 with the building to the foundation i was searching long gone in the woods. I ended up giving away this metal detector because it only gives a tone but doesnt tell you what metal type. Some day I might get a good one that will tell metal type and depth to avoid tons of wasteful digging for junk. I gave it to a friend who cuts firewood to test long sections of trees for nails and spikes before he takes his chain saw to them. He had a nasty accident happen before when a chain saw struck a nail in a tree and kicked back on him.

Lastly the Saddle Ridge Hoard was in the news not too long ago too... more info here on gold coins found in a tin can in California: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddle_Ridge_Hoard



[attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]Salmon i read that story as well...what i was struck by was the loose confines of what the Government uses to determine something "treasure"...which basically makes it State property...

Supposedly they interviewed 50 or so people and dismissed their claims pretty quickly...just sayin. Quote from: patio on April 21, 2017, 01:27:09 PM
Salmon i read that story as well...what i was struck by was the loose confines of what the Government uses to determine something "treasure"...which basically makes it State property...
Not State property. In England and Wales, the law obliges finders of objects which are treasure to report their find to their local coroner within 14 days. (In Britain, a "coroner" is a judge). An inquest led by the coroner then determines whether the find constitutes treasure or not. If it is declared to be treasure then the finder must offer the item for sale to a museum at a price set by an independent board of antiquities experts known as the Treasure Valuation Committee. Only if a museum expresses no interest in the item, or is unable to purchase it, can the finder retain it. So the finder gets the value, if not always the actual item.

'Treasure' is defined as being:

All coins from the same hoard. A hoard is defined as two or more coins, as long as they are at least 300 years old when found. If they contain less than 10% gold or silver there must be at least 10 in the hoard for it to qualify.

Two or more prehistoric base metal objects in association with one another

Any individual (non-coin) find that is at least 300 years old and contains at least 10% gold or silver.

Associated finds: any object of any material found in the same place as (or which had previously been together with) another object which is deemed treasure.

Objects substantially made from gold or silver but are less than 300 years old, that have been deliberately hidden with the intention of recovery and whose owners or heirs are unknown.

If the finder is not the owner of the land where the treasure was found, he or she must share the find, or its sale price, with the landowner, and/or the current tenant occupying the land.

In Scotland, the process is very similar, except that the state is under no legal compulsion to reward the finder, although it usually does. A reward may be withheld or reduced if the finder has inappropriately handled an object, for instance, damaged it by cleaning it or applying WAXES and varnishes to it. Finders may elect to waive their rewards. Rewards are not paid for finds occurring during organized fieldwork.

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Supposedly they interviewed 50 or so people and dismissed their claims pretty quickly...just sayin.
The Coroner's Court (which is independent of the state) would have assessed their claims.



Thank you for the well written clarification....
The BBC news page i read over here devoted 2 sentences to the procedure.

So in essence it has to be offered up to Museums once declared a "treasure"...correct ?

And what % does the State get and the finder get from the museum proceeds ? ? Quote from: patio on April 21, 2017, 02:46:46 PM
So in essence it has to be offered up to Museums once declared a "treasure"...correct ?
Yes, and the museum must pay market price.

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And what % does the State get and the finder get from the museum proceeds ? ?
All of the reward goes to the entitled parties (finder, and maybe the landowner). The State (that is, the Government) takes tax, 18% on anything over £10,100). Once again...Thanx.

patio.Very Cool info shared... never knew of those legalities and very interesting that museums are given first dibs at pretty much anything they want, however they need to pay a fair price for it determined by market... curious how they estimate a value for something that is 1 of a kind and archeological or if archeological isnt under treasure legalities and is protected under an even stronger legality to where it can be seized from private ownership due to its historical or scientific importance etc. Quote from: DaveLembke on April 21, 2017, 04:21:50 PM
Very Cool info shared... never knew of those legalities and very interesting that museums are given first dibs at pretty much anything they want, however they need to pay a fair price for it determined by market... curious how they estimate a value for something that is 1 of a kind and archeological or if archeological isnt under treasure legalities and is protected under an even stronger legality to where it can be seized from private ownership due to its historical or scientific importance etc.
The governing principles seem to be that the whole business must be (and must be seen to be) open, fair, and above board, safeguarding the interests of the finders/landowners, and the guardians of Britain's historical heritage. So no shady deals or undervaluation or hidden profits.

The Treasure Valuation Committee (TVC), comprising of independent antiques or coin experts and a representative of the HOBBY of metal-detecting, establishes the likely market value of each treasure find. A reward of this value can then be made to the finders of treasure and to the owners of find sites unless there are grounds for no reward or a reduced award to be made.

Recent appointments to the TVC

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Professor Roger Bland OBE

Roger Bland was Keeper of the Department of Britain, Europe and Prehistory at the British Museum, until July 2015, with responsibility for Portable Antiquities & Treasure. He is President of the British Numismatic Society and Vice-President of the Royal Numismatic Society. He is involved in writing and teaching, and is currently a Visiting Professor at the School of Archaeology and Ancient History, University of Leicester, and churchwarden of St Margaret’s church, Cley-next-Sea in Norfolk.

Christopher Martin

Christopher Martin is the proprietor and Managing Director of CJ Martin Coins and Ancient Art Ltd, and St James’s Ancient Art. He is also Chairman of the British Numismatic Trade Association, and of the Antiquities Dealers Association. He has extensive experience of independent valuation of antiquities, gained over some 40 years of trading.

Dr Tim Pestell

Dr Pestell is Senior Curator of Archaeology at Norfolk Museums Service, responsible for the post-Roman collections. Prior to that he was a self-employed archaeologist, carrying out post-excavation work, small finds reports and small archaeological evaluations. Between 1998-2002, he also lectured at the University of East Anglia, teaching Landscape Archaeology and History.

These roles are unpaid. All three new Committee members hold no other public appointments, and have each declared no political activity in the United Kingdom in the past 5 years.

Estimates of the value of the recent coin find would be informed by history of prices at recent auctions, and as you can see, the committe has members who are very knowledgeable about that kind of thing.

https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/treasure-valuation-committee

https://finds.org.uk/

One reason for a reduced reward to a finder might be if they did not not seek the landowner's permission before searching for buried items, however even then weight would be given to the fact that the find was properly reported. So digging in a piano would constitute lack of permission ? ?

Just kiddin...Cool thanks for the additional info
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Solve : ae appearing as æ on silk browser. Virus??

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Whenever I type or see AE on my Kindle fire (2nd generation), it appears as an æ. Only started a couple days ago. Can't find the cause and INTERNET searches for this are frustrating at best. Don't know if it's a virus or something else. Just restored Kindle to FACTORY DEFAULTS, but the problem persists.Sorry, I have no knowledge on how to deal with Kindle but I've never heard of them getting infected.Well, that's good I guess. I'd still like to know the cause. Is there any other PLACE to post this question?

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Solve : What is Windows XP gold 2016??

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There is no such thing!
But a yahoo search will GIVE hundereds of matches.
On pnterest:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/197454764892514234/
On You Tube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3yrA05zfgQ
On Computerworld:
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2583447/microsoft-windows/microsoft-releases-windows-xp--gold--code-as--antitrust-case-goes-to-lower-court.html
By Jennifer DiSabatino and Patrick Thibodeau
Computerworld | AUG 24, 2001
Thisis one you need to read for the background of how this happended.
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The same day that Microsoft Corp. is releasing the final version of its Windows XP operating system software, the company's antitrust case was returned to a lower court, where a new judge will consider remedies to impose on the vendor for its anticompetitive practices.
Amid buzzing helicopters and the glare of gold Zero Halliburton P5 attache cases at Microsoft's Redmond, Wash., campus, Chairman Bill Gates and Jim Allchin, group vice president of Windows, were to officially hand over CDs containing the 'gold' code, or final version of the Windows XP operating system software, to six PC makers TODAY.
Here we are now some 15 or 16 years later and the topic is still very warm.
Links to  ***censored  ***  and others such sites are not included here. 

Somewhere I read one time XP was near 80 %  of all desktops in the world.
"Windows XP 2016 Gold" is a pirated distribution of Windows XP, like "Windows XP Black Edition".

it has ABSOLUTELY nothiing to do with the original RTM going "Gold".
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Solve : What is RF ID and he Intenet of Things??

Answer» Hey, it is off topic.
 But it does have a lot to do with computer related technologies.
This stuff is new to me. Maybe not to you. Plaes add to this thread and share what  you know.

The RF ID night be that little plastic button taht sounds an alarm as a shoplifter goes out of Wlamart witout paying for apair o Levi's jeaans. But it can also be a little thing taht tracks a box from Amazon to you front door.

The RF ID isa often a pasive device taht is almost invisible. Well, it is visible, but you hardly notice. Nop wires. Seldom does it  have a battery. Yet it can signal its presense over a short distance. It has a pasive abilty to send telemetry over the Internt to a workstation thousands of miles away. I do not undersand fully how it does what it does. Sounds like magic.

The Internet of Things is when lots of things can comunicate with the globlal Internat using wireless techology that lets almost anything send telemetry data to a central server.

A posible  senario someday soon:
You go out to your car and get in and the gate for your house automatically opens without you doing anything. OK. Then you get a voice message from the car to tell you that you  forgaot your umbrella and it is going to rain where your are going.  So you go back into your house to get the umbrella and the house tells you taht your dog got out of the house and is donw the street playhing with some children who are feeding him cholocate ice cream. He is alergic to chocolate.  You tell the hose to ORDER the dog to come home right now. Andthe dog comes home.

Howis that posilbe for rmere machines? Due to RFID, the Iheinternet and amazing software work together to present you with important data for things that matter in your life.

For a more dry, technical explanation, reaad this:
A Primer On The Internet of Things & RFID
January 15, 2014 By James Thrasher

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Since Kevin Ashton first coined the phrase in 1999, the definition of IoT has evolved over the years. Initially, it was used to describe the limitations in the relationship between the internet, computers, and the physical world. Ashton was describing how nearly all the data available on the internet originated from a human. With available and emerging technologies, Ashton believed information about things need not be dependent on a manual interaction; it could be an automated process.

Somethingto think about.
"Internet of Things" would be better termed "Internet of Security Holes".

A dishwasher with a vulnerable web server; a Toaster susceptible to a DNS attack; a Coffee Maker that has a Heap manager vulnerable to remote execution. This is the sort of thing that "Internet of Things" gives us. It is throwing caution to the wind and attaching all sorts of devices to the Internet because it's the whizbang way, Not for any real convenience afforded by doing so.

There are Coffee Makers that you use via Wifi. You can only really control them via the App. The app is skeumorphic without a hint of irony. It's basically just moved the coffee maker controls from the coffee maker to an App. It's completely pointless especially because you have to be at the coffee maker to put ground coffee and water into it so it can brew, so you are basically using the Coffee Maker exactly like a normal one- but with this App you use on your phone for some reason.

And that doesn't EVEN address that having these devices connected to the internet, in addition to making them a possible vulnerability both in terms of security as well as privacy, you've got a load of more points of failure.

Take a Toaster. It's a simple device. it has heating elements which heat bread. Easy enough.

You look on Amazon and there are $200 Toasters with motorized crumb trays and descent mechanisms. How is that better than having them attached to a lever? Congratulations you've added a Motor that sits in a super hot environment. Gee I wonder how long that will last.

meanwhile there are 100 year old toasters which literally go from bread to charcoal in 20 seconds.

Taking your example scenario, what is more likely to occur is:

You try to get out of your car, but you can't, because the doors haven't unlocked. You haven't driven perfectly onto the parking pad that the Magical Door Unlocker needs to see under the car *Warning: Don't drive into ravines or other dangerous situations, Magical Door Unlocker (tm) will not be held responsible for your inevitable death in these scenarios.* . So you reverse out of your driveway and PARK again, the door unlocks. So you are now able to open the door. Great. You WALK to your front gate- walking right into it, because it had to wake from sleep mode, connect to the internet and validate your regional settings before checking the approaching RFID identity. After a few moment, it authenticates you and pops open. So you walk up to the door. Since the gate detected your presence the door opens, but because of a firmware bug in an update pushed that afternoon it does so at 90 times the power intended, blasting the door off the hinges and shattering the plate glass. The shock wave knocks off your remote doorbell, which falls on the ground, pressing it. This starts playing an unintended song because last night the servers were hacked and all doorbell tunes on the cloud server were replaced with it. You find your dog convulsing on the floor, because when it was scratching itself, it dislodged it's Arfinder (tm) rfid chip, which fell in it's water dish. It's whining because when the rfid was destroyed the Arfinder assumed the dog had left the designated area and started sending it mild shocks, getting more intense over time in order to convince the dog to return to the designated area, Leaving your dog convulsing on the floor, because a recent firmware bug had accidentally removed the upper limit as an attempt to fix an issue with St. Bernards not being coaxed easily. So there you are, trying to wrestle off  the dog's shock collar, while standing in a puddle of the dog's urine and being splashed by his convulsing limbs, all while being FORCED to listen to The fresh prince theme song. Suddenly, EMTs appear at your door, because your car called 911 when you didn't answer it's 40 frantic texts about your Umbrella and assumed the worst.

Yep you're living in the future alright.

Philip K *censored* foresaw this future way back.In Ubik (1969), there are plenty of things that look just like today. A guy has to pay his coffee pot to make him a drink, and his apartment door to open. When he grabs a tool to disassemble the doorknob, the door threatens him with a lawsuit for violating his user contract. He even foresaw that 'things' could get spiteful and mean if people tried to thwart them. Remember that garage door opener the other day? Where the company bricked it because the purchaser gave negative reviews? Revealng my politics here, but to me, what *censored* does here is explain in half a page why the Internet of Things will suck under capitalism:

"I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you read past warnings about the Internet of Things right now."Agreed- he motivations of the companies behind the devices are important as well, because they never really lose control of the device. A lot of IOT devices have parts manufactured in China, and regardless of where it is manufactured when you've got smart devices there tends to be some silly cloud storage and TOS that no doubt would give the manufacturer free reign to sell your usage information to interested advertisers.

Those are definitely a concern, though  I find my objections to IOT devices are often largely one of utility- do you actually gain anything worth anywhere near the possible disadvantages (including those where the device is still pretty much under the company's control)? I don't think so. The example of a Coffee Maker which has no controls and instead offers a skeumorphic control interface (which mimics a Coffee makers controls) via an App, as an example, is really just "tech injection"- it's unnecessarily adding Microprocessors, network connectivity, cloud storage, etc. to devices which really don't benefit from that in their purpose. Does a Toaster, or a Microwave, or a refrigerator, really, truly benefit from being able to save/store settings or record expiry dates and so forth? I think those gains are dubious, even if we ignore that they come at a rather excessive cost. It's one thing when an Old PC you have set up in another room still running XP is a security risk that allows entry to your network; It's quite another when you have to start worrying about whether somebody could do it via your Microwave or Toaster, and have to start ssh-ing into your Oven or Dishwasher to edit configuration files to harden your network.

Meanwhile, New Malware intentionally bricks IOT devicesYou are being much too negative.

One could argue that many important technologies are not really needed.
Here is a lit major t tech advances. I place a CON after a few from the list.
http://www.popsci.com/best-whats-new/article/2012-11/top-25-innovations-last-25-years
Each of these has a negative downside, a harmful side effect.

Sun World International Seedless Watermelon, 1988
CON: Loss of income for conventional watermelon growers.

Sylvania 18-watt Compact Fluorescent, 1991
CON: Generates radio noise  and gives some people headraces.

Channel Tunnel (Chunnel), 1994
CON: Another target for radical elements of society. And put yet another  French  word in the English dictionary.

Fujitsu QFTV Gas Plasma Display TV, 1997
CON:More materiel you can not put in landfill.

Heart Stream Fore Runner Portable Defibrillator, 1997
CON: Much too expensive for general use.

Diamond Rio PMP300, 1998
CON: Kids ruin their eardrums with these.

So you could find fault with almost any new device that comes along. But we have them and they are looking like they will stay. 

The Internet of  Things  is both here and still coming.   I have no words for what i just read..... Quote from: Geek-9pm on April 09, 2017, 07:33:46 PM
One could argue that many important technologies are not really needed.
Many breakthroughs aren't needed- Digital MP3 over CD, CD over Audio Cassette, Audio Cassette over 8-track, 8-track over Vinyl records, etc. But they also offered many real, tangible benefits. We do not see much- if anything- in the way of real, tangible benefits when it comes to "Internet of Things" devices, and those we do see are so ridiculously small it's almost a joke that anybody could regard them as such. There were a number of other formats- like the Play Tape- which did not have these real, tangible benefits in excess over their conventional alternatives and that is perhaps the more accurate analogy for what 'Internet of Things' enabled devices are in comparison to their more mundane equivalents.

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Sun World International Seedless Watermelon, 1988
CON: Loss of income for conventional watermelon growers.
Seedless watermelon is rather uncommon. If the market was to shift so radically away from watermelons that still contain the seeds, then watermelon growers can start growing the seedless variety. This is how fruits such as seedless grapes have become dominant, because they are more desirable; The Seedless variety offer a clear, distinct advantage over the seeded variety in that they have no seeds.

This hardly presents an Analog to Internet of Things devices, though. You lose nothing of particular value by using a conventional Coffee Maker over something like the cloud-connected, App-driven Coffee Maker that I described, (or even a similar device which at least lets you use it like a conventional coffee maker as well) or having to use a Doorknob or gate latch, but have so much to lose by trying to connect those devices to the Internet to provide some sort of automation.

The rest of your examples are similar. They are devices which as you state have cons, but they also have clear advantages over the previous alternative. CF bulbs use less energy and last longer; The Channel Tunnel improves transportation and provides demonstrable economic benefits, Gas Plasma scintillators provide a much clearer picture, and you couldn't throw out LCD or CRT screens directly to the landfill anyway, a portable defibrillator could save lives over the alternative which is to wait for an ambulance which has one. It is expensive, but it didn't exist before that either. MP3 players made music far more portable. The listed con doesn't even really make sense. I'm pretty sure people playing music far louder than they should was a thing long before MP3 Players.
Geek's remarks about the Channel Tunnel are as offensive as they are stupid. For shame. Quote from: Salmon Trout on April 10, 2017, 01:00:32 AM
Geek's remarks about the Channel Tunnel are as offensive as they are stupid. For shame.
I'm sorry.   More offending is the defibrillator comment...he obviously doesn't know anyone who earned an extended life by one...The topic was to be about the future use of RFID and communications.
Panto, my comments were meant to be dry satire. That kind of  things is by its natural offensive.

It was my response to the negative remarks about the future use of RFID.  It has to be offensive to make a point after somebody makes a worthless remark.
BC made a remark about a Mr. Coffee pot connected to the internet and used such to disparage any kind of future witless telemetry that RFID can offer. 

An RFID is a small device that will  work without batteries and can be steely attached on implanted in a living thing or an inanimate object.
Such devices have already saved many lives by providing medical researches a new insight into the human body functions.
some links:
http://rfid24-7.com/2012/05/24/rfid-saves-lives-in-india/
http://www.zkaccess.com/how-rfid-technology-saves-lives/
http://www.financialpost.com/executive/smart-shift/technology/that+saves+money+lives/3268948/story.html
https://www.rfidsolutionsonline.com/doc/650-handheld-computer-veriscan-0001
http://medcitynews.com/2013/12/5-ways-hospitals-implementing-rfid-tags-emerging-trend-healthcare/
I was hoping to find a more positive response to what the RFID can do.
Unfortunately, the tern "Internet of Things" has become such a  cli·ché that the mention of it brings negative comments. Maybe I such have used another term, like 'Public Packet Switching Network' or something like that.

To bring the grayest benefit, an RFID  has to connect to a kind of network where the data can be processed. To start out it can be just inside a medical clinic. But eventually researches will want the data to be available everywhere.
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Radiology: Some hospitals are taking innovative approaches to RFID. Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center sewed RFID tags into the seams of x-ray protection vests in an effort to reduce the time it takes to locate the vests for government inspections, said Stuart Grogan, the radiology equipment manager who developed its Pulse Finder RFID enhanced system. It combines software from ScanOnline with Motorola handheld readers. There was some trial and error before it got it right — apparently plastic gets very brittle when it is exposed to radiation! It helped the hospital shift from what was essentially a paper-based system to an electronic one. Records are more accurate and equipment is easier to find.
The above is critical of the RFID, but does not suggest they should not be used.
Another:
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    November 30, 2004
Source:
    U.S. Food And Drug Administration
Summary:
    The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) today stepped up its efforts to improve the safety and security of the nation's drug supply through the use of radio frequency identification (RFID) technology. FDA launched this effort by publishing a Compliance Policy Guide (CPG) for implementing RFID feasibility studies and pilot programs that are designed to enhance the safety and security of the drug supply.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/11/041124160812.htm?utm_source=TrendMD&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=ScienceDaily_TrendMD_1

Yes, I have seen friend die in  front of me.A number of us at that moment already had first aid training and could not revive him. A  defibrillator machine would have been welcome back then.
The price f such a device has come down recently. Check with the American Red Cross. Or just Google t.
 Internet of Things is when everyday devices are connected and can be accessed through the Internet or the Cloud. RFID being used in the Internet of Things would be with those devices. Such as say a Coffee Pod with an RFID that gives a "Smart" Coffee Pod machine a URL to an XML Document that describes it's characteristics.

The Coffee Maker example was not an outlier- that is the norm for for IOT devices.

The disagreement it would seem is because you are applying a far more general use for the term, to apply to devices and instances that are not everyday; things like Medic alert chips, Store theft protection, and for another example Chip&PIN bank cards.

Those are separate from Internet of Things and they see large benefits because the companies responsible for them have pretty much everything to gain by keeping it secure and reliable. The issue is that "Internet of Things" devices- like so the many devices that would be in your example story, are going to be sold largely as "impulse" purchases, bvased on the sort of imaginings like the story. Their reliability and longevity and even security aren't going to matter as much to the people responsible for it. This is why many IOT devices are being shut down over time as the companies either fold or they shut down older servers/devices, pushing customers to buy the newer model. {sigh} I  give up.  A better emoticon would show them beating their head against the goalpost they moved.
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Solve : need an apology?

Answer»

I had a network problem with my computer, sometimes the mouse would work sometimes not, a site may, or may not come up, I asked for help, and all I GOT was abuse for posting twice, when I needed help. fortunately I found the answer on another site, not knocking the site, just the moderator Sage.  First of all, there is no moderator here NAMED Sage.

Second, we don't abuse posters under any circumstances for any reason - period!

Last,, I've gone through a history of your threads and don't see anything approaching abuse, just a post from Patio notifying you that since you posted the same question more than once he closed the duplicate topic. A simple ADVISORY post, certainly no abuse. If there is something else please post the link so we can see it. If not, you might want to take a BREATH and rethink your need for an apology.I am the one that locked your double-Post...

If that offended you i apologise.

patio.Apology gracefully accepted

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Solve : Game Development?

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Anybody into game development? I don't just mean programming, but writing, art, sound, etc. I want to read The Ultimate Guide to Video Game Writing and Design. I've always been interested in how games get written and planned out before going into production.

I have read books on this subject, and wanted to get into this years ago but didnt.... What questions do you have?

The one biggest thing that I learned on this subject is that 99.9% of the games out there are not just one person who wants to make a game and makes it and markets it themselves. The games have teams of programmers, game rendering and graphic artists for making all the characters and graphic environments, voice over artists, and investors and marketing team and that budgets in the millions of dollars to develop and release a game title for sale is the majority of the software titles out there with some costing tens or hundreds of millions to develop in hopes that what they made for software wont be a flop and it will turn a profit greater than that of the development costs.

The books I read did not sugar coat that everyone can be one of the people on the game development team, it was VERY down to earth and told you that you have to pretty much be the best of the best in whatever aspect of the development that you want to be a part of. Additionally if your a greenhorn, that is, you have never developed a game before or been in a team environment to produce a profitable piece of software, you have even harder chances of hitting it big, that is unless your privileged with connections to someone already in this field.

Just like most tech jobs, many employers have requirements of 3 to 5 years experience working for a well known business in the field, so that your able to jump on board and do the job with minimal training. If your lucky you might be able to get an internship with a game or any other software company to get the work experience in this environment to bridge you to the career of your choice as for most employers especially game design companies do not hire greenhorns for mission critical roles in software and game development because deadlines have to be met and the risk of not meeting deadlines reduced by having on board skilled help who will have a greater probability of meeting the deadline goals as well as making for a quality product that wont have bugs that are the result of someone who is new to a field etc.

You will want to build a portfolio of your skills so you can sell yourself. If its programming for example you will need to show code examples as well as be prepared to demonstrate your skills during interview and defend your programming when it may be critiqued in a manner to see how you handle negative and positive feedback. If graphic game design and user interface design etc, you will need to be able to show examples of what you have on that as well.

Additionally, while I havent landed a job as a "Programmer", I was once in an interview as an "Electronics Engineering Assistant" and it had a requirement that you know your way around C++. I was instructed to bring with me to the interview code examples. I had an interview in 4 days and I had nothing really to show for my skills. I had to hit the computer and put together programs that I found fit a use that was ALL my programming and no plagiarism! In programming its ok to use objects similar to others work as your own, as long as you have it constructed differently, but grabbing someone elses program and just changing variable names and menu information isnt enough, you need to really stick to making your own product and have comment lines in the program and show good use of reuse of objects etc. I ended up putting two programs together for the interview that were about 5 pages each in length. One of them was a game but rather simple. The other was a program that was to be used in testing environment that worked with Parallel Port I/O to control relays and feedback from inputs. I had a circuit with this and I came forward and said that this program is open source from this said location and I added my own menu's and options to this already existing program. I showed a before and after code examples of what I added and why. I demonstrated that I was able to read someone elses code and modify it as needed for my own needs.

The game I showed they were not impressed with and didnt really raise an eye brow to. But the code example of the open source relay control software that I took someone elses product, I was able to read it and add my own menu system to it to make it better for a specific application. This right here sold my skills to them as well as showing that I knew my way around electronic circuits and demonstrated how to use an oscilloscope and troubleshoot their interview never seen before test board and fix 2 problems. One problem was a 1 amp fuse on the board was popped but this small fuse that looked like a green 1/4 watt resistor had no physical signs that it was blown. 5 volts in and no 5 volts out the other end of the fuse. Test 1 passed. Ok now test 2. A board that would not communicate. I troubleshot this for about 10 minutes and then found that the crystal that was on the board was the wrong crystal. Instead of 16Mhz it was 24Mhz. Anyone looking quickly on the clock pin would see a clock signal and move on and never find it. I was told that I was one of 2 people that found this bug on this test board, 9 others before us sweat it out and didnt catch the problem seeing the squarewave and moving on and chasing their tails with wrong guesses.

Unfortunately, this job didnt pan out to what I had hoped. I was only getting $15 an hour as an Electronics Engineering Apprentice which should have been a title of a Production Test Technician since i was testing their product and repairing them. The owner of the company was a graduate of a big name college and he engineered and marketed a product and I was testing it and troubleshooting it and the engineer there I really didnt work with. I was hired through a temp agency and when testing their product, i was able to test 840 of these little boards in a day and I thought i was doing really well at 800 tested and bagged for ready to be boxed and sold... the owner said he was hoping i would have 1200 of these done in a day. I looked at him and laughed. He didnt like that I laughed. I backed up my laugh with, your surely joking right, because in an 8 hour day and each board taking 30 seconds to test with 18 seconds of that 30 seconds being connecting the small board the size of a postage stamp to a test station, the center of a wheel, and a download, and the other 12 seconds being turning the wheel a full rotation and watching the values on the read out to be +/- within a specific tolerance, each board takes 30 seconds to test, with 2 per minute thats 120 per hour than can be tested, and in an 8 hour day thats a maximum of 960 of these tested which falls short of your 1200. So are you suggesting that I work a 10 hour day to get the 1200, since if all goes as planned with no board failures and no distractions, if I get 2 done per minute I can hit 1200 in 10 hours? He said no... You need to hit 1200 in 8 hours. I said laughing and shaking my head, your asking for the impossible. He said well if its impossible then find another job. So I said ok here I have a solution. But it will take money and it wont be happening for a few days if implemented. I said approve of me to modify your test wheel to test at least 2 of these at the same time. Then in an 8 hour day with no distractions and no complications there is potential for around 1920 of these to be tested. I said with a laugh I guess I passed this test.... so when can i start ordering the stuff we need to be able to test 2 of these at a time? He looked red in the FACE and said, this was no test. I really need 1200 of these tested in a day! I said well, I am not able to change the laws of physics and time, and someone with a degree of your stature I would think would be able to do simple math of 2 x 60 x 8 and know that 1200 is not going to happen in an 8 hour day. So I contacted the temp agency that evening and thanked them for the placement of the position, but that the owner had unrealistic expectations so I have to leave employment with them.

While this example above isnt game development, it is to show that some employment out there can have unrealistic expectations as well as show real life examples of testing for employment to show your skills and my C++ skills were shown here that vaguely ties into game development. But most importantly that you best be prepared to sit down in an environment that they have set up for you and show that you will sink or swim in whatever it is that you want for a job. This job was the most extensive and longest interview ever. It was 3 hours long. And my wife thought i broke down somewhere because what interview starts at 3:30pm and goes to 6:30pm.. most are done in under an hour. But they kept throwing stuff my way to see where I would make mistakes or where I would show a weakness and in not finding weaknesses its almost like dealing with an auditor and an auditor can never audit something and not find anything because if they dont find anything its as if they arent doing their job good enough as an auditor so you almost have to give them something so they are satisfied and so I caught on to this and so I started just saying openly where my strengths and weaknesses were so that they would either finally be satisfied that the interview is complete and I am hired or not because my stomach was growling and I was ready to leave at that point spent on the Q&A and tests they kept throwing at me to try to get me to flop and fail at something, and I wasnt failing.

Lastly, most games out there are made using game engines. Programming and rendering etc all made with tools to work with specific engines. The one book I have on game development and design goes into talking about all the different game engine environments and talks a lot about the unreal engine and how knowledge of working with certain engines are beneficial than that of someone who has not worked with those engines before.

Hoping anything I share doesnt deter you from whatever your passion is.... but just sharing from reading about it and researching it.... These positions are not easy to land! And if your lucky you might get an internship to get the experience requirement that you need and have a foot in the door that way, but that to be accepted for an internship you will likely have to be very good in the field of study at your college so that when going in for interview for internship you can show them that your a 3.7 or better GPA etc as for the book talks greatly on the game dev companies wanting the best of the best. Many companies use internships as cheap labor and a ways to feel out who to keep and who to drop without having to deal with hiring and firing regular career employees that may have labor law privileges that interns lack, as well as many arent given a 40 hour work week and so there are no health benefits etc, and being just an intern your salary is peanuts compared to the real bread that those in the field get paid who have the actual positions.

Once again, any specific questions on this, please feel free to ask. And maybe someone else here may be able to answer where I lack knowledge of etc. 

Thanks for your reply DaveLembke!

Your answer was a good read.

I don’t have any question in particular. I just wanted to see if there was some excitement when it comes to game development/gaming in general. From high school I knew I wanted to get into video game programming, long story short, I didn’t become a game programmer.

The reason?

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Just like most tech jobs, many employers have requirements of 3 to 5 years experience working for a well known business in the field, so that your able to jump on board and do the job with minimal training.

Didn’t have any experience, or a computer science degree.

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You will want to build a portfolio of your skills so you can sell yourself. If its programming for example you will need to show code examples as well as be prepared to demonstrate your skills during interview and defend your programming when it may be critiqued in a manner to see how you handle negative and positive feedback. If graphic game design and user interface design etc, you will need to be able to show examples of what you have on that as well.

I had programming examples, and can take criticism, the problem for me are extremely complicated topics such as threading, generics, data structures, garbage collection, design patterns, and what makes good code. A lot more topics exist that they didn’t teach, but those few are what come to mind.

Also, I’d also like to add STRONG math skills. Graphics/Gameplay will always involve some level math.

It just seems that the level of excitement about gaming just isn’t the same as it was a few years ago. I’m talking about when Xbox 360/PS3/PC gaming were huge, sites like IGN, Gamespot, etc. where putting out content every week, and smaller-midsize studios were doing well enough to stay open a couple of years. Now, small studios either close down or get bought out by bigger companies, and sites that cover gaming shut down or cover content unrelated to gaming. Unless you’re a big name studio, it just doesn’t look good at all for gaming.   

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Hoping anything I share doesnt deter you from whatever your passion is.... but just sharing from reading about it and researching it.... These positions are not easy to land! And if your lucky you might get an internship to get the experience requirement that you need and have a foot in the door that way, but that to be accepted for an internship you will likely have to be very good in the field of study at your college so that when going in for interview for internship you can show them that your a 3.7 or better GPA etc as for the book talks greatly on the game dev companies wanting the best of the best. Many companies use internships as cheap labor and a ways to feel out who to keep and who to drop without having to deal with hiring and firing regular career employees that may have labor law privileges that interns lack, as well as many arent given a 40 hour work week and so there are no health benefits etc, and being just an intern your salary is peanuts compared to the real bread that those in the field get paid who have the actual positions.

It’s interesting you should bring this up, as a game development company downtown, has two positions that I’ve already applied too. The first is, General Interest(didn’t see the job you were looking for? The company will take to the time to look over your resume, and see if they have anything that fits) and Community Support Representative(think customer service), you basically go though the forums, and look for users who have problems and help them.

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Lastly, most games out there are made using game engines. Programming and rendering etc all made with tools to work with specific engines. The one book I have on game development and design goes into talking about all the different game engine environments and talks a lot about the unreal engine and how knowledge of working with certain engines are beneficial than that of someone who has not worked with those engines before.   

The company uses Unity as they are a small-midsize company, so licensing the Unreal engine might be expensive, but I understand what you mean. It’s best to have some experience with a game engine than none. Quote
It just seems that the level of excitement about gaming just isn’t the same as it was a few years ago. I’m talking about when Xbox 360/PS3/PC gaming were huge, sites like IGN, Gamespot, etc. where putting out content every week, and smaller-midsize studios were doing well enough to stay open a couple of years. Now, small studios either close down or get bought out by bigger companies, and sites that cover gaming shut down or cover content unrelated to gaming. Unless you’re a big name studio, it just doesn’t look good at all for gaming. 

On this subject, I have to say that  while Gamestop or Gamespot might not show the excitement.... I have 3 things to say on this..

First Indie Games seem to be doing rather well, and especially games for Android that are free and make money on ads or low cost to where the game is good and someone is willing to buy it for say 99 cents. In addition to Android based games, Steam for example has tons of low cost games that are in the Indie game sort of category that do quite well, however there is no information on the cost/sales ratio to know what titles cost to make vs sales to offset the cost to make the title and what the profitability is, but there are small indie game studio names that likely had much smaller development costs than that of say an xbox or PS4 game title and they are turning a healthy profit.

The second thing i have to say on this subject is in relation to my last 2 VISITS to Gamestop. I use to like going into Gamestop and buy my PC Games there. They use to have a good selection such as a shelf out on the floor with both sides of it full of PC Games, one side new games and other side was used games. This was less than 10 years ago that I would go in and be happy with my visit. Then The selection shrunk fast when used games could no longer be purchased. So they were down to one side of a island like shelf in the back of the store. Then it started to shrink more and more. I asked them why they weren't stocking PC Games anymore and they said console games are where the money is at and if you want to buy used console games we can still sell those, but cant sell PC Games Used anymore because we ran into problems with people buying games, installing the games or ripping copies of the games and then reselling the game to get money back on the games to buy more and repeat the same shady gamer ethics. They said that PC Gaming is dying and console gaming is where its at. I being a hardcore PC Gamer for years kind of took defense to this stating that PC Gaming is stronger than ever and took it that this guy was likely trying to convert me to being a console gamer because they need console gamer customers in order to survive since they aren't in the interest of PC Gamers.

My last visit to Gamestop was a month ago. My daughter wanted a game for her PS3 and so I figured sure lets go in and see what they have its been a while since I was in there and it will be interesting to see if they even have a PC Game selection left. To my surprise when asking if they had any PC games the guy was like ... oh over here ... and it was on the lowest shelf along the right wall below some other gamer nic-nacks. There was about 12 games in game boxes and some were still $49.99 and others were marked down on discount. I found one game a $50 title marked down to $9.99 and another game a $30 title for $4.99 and so I figured I'd buy these games for $14.98.

When checking out the guy ran the games up and he paused. I was like whats up... are they not on file... just override and sell it at the sticker price. the sales associate said... they are ringing up for a Penny a Piece, he said I cant sell these for 2 cents. I said, just do the override and sell then for $14.98 I dont expect to get them for $0.02, I can see its a mistake. The guy says hold on I need to call my boss. So he gets on his cell phone and calls his boss at home at 7:30pm and the boss answers. The boss stated to him over the phone that oh those are recalled and cant be sold. I was like WHAT? Recalled Games on the shelf that are ringing up for a penny each? SERIOUSLY!!!!?

The cashier said ... sorry I cant sell these they have been recalled. I just stood there in disbelief. And asked what the recall was for? Choking Hazard or something?

The cashier said that the games have bugs and I guess we cant sell them. I said at $14.98 for 2 game titles, i could care less if it has some sort of glitch or bug. Paying that kind of money its almost expected that your going to get what you pay for I said in a joking manner.

The guy said... sorry my boss said I cant sell these. I was angered and said... you might want to pull all the PC Games off the shelf and see which ones ring up for a penny and which ones ring up full price. I said this is insane. And as I was leaving he jabbed me with just face it PC Gaming is dying, switch to a console. In which I turned around and said.... Console Games are outside of my gaming budget. I said I use to be a console gamer from Atari 2600 in the late 1970s all the way to PlayStation 1, but that I cant see dropping $50-$60 or more on a game. I said years ago I use to work for KB Toys and my whole paycheck would go to buying console video games. I have spent over $10,000 in games over the last 30 years easily and looking back at all the money spent, that was sort of wasted, if I had bought into PC Games sooner, i would have spent less. I said Shareware and Freeware DOS games back in the day couldnt really compete with console games, but that now days the graphics of PC Games and Console Games are a match and game titles are ported across multiple platforms. I said you can stick with your console games and pay the piper, I am going to stick to my PC Gaming and pay generally less for games.

I havent been back there since, that was the final straw with Gamestop.

Steam is where I get most of my games and that place is very successful and very active for PC gamers and there are still likely hundreds of millions if not Billions of PC Gamers out there playing old and new games on a wide variety of aged computers. I even get games on discount through Humble Bundle in which some of the money goes to charity and other goes to Humble Bundle the business as well as the game devs that own the rights to the games. I like that they have a set your own price for games at Humble Bundle. I can get indie games and get 5 for $1 on a humble bundle deal or if there is a game on sale at a price point, I can pay say $15, get the 1 title that I had to have on discount as well as I am getting 8 other games as part of the same bundle.  Only problem I have now is that I sometimes buy games in volume faster than I have time to try out all the games. 

The third thing to say on this is in relation to game devs that come and go and bought up by others etc. This has been happening for years. Yes I do agree that it seems to happen more now than in prior years. It might be healthier that this happens as for devs like Blizzard Entertainment for example use to hire on a massive crew to bulldoze their way through a project to get it all done and then have a massive firing/layoff exodus when the game was complete to shed employment costs. With the devs being bought up then the employees may be retained to work on multiple projects vs flash in the pan Feast or Famine when it comes to work and employment. Blizzard Entertainment by shedding talented people gave birth to Runic Games when ex Blizzard devs grouped together to form their own games. Games such as Torchlight and Torchlight II are fun dungeon crawlers similar to Diablo II and Diablo III as well as has some World of Warcraft hints to it using OGRE engine thats licensed through MIT.

Lastly:
Developing for mobile devices is where I would focus if I was going into game dev these days myself. Simple and Addictive games seem to be a hit as well as games you can PLAY for 5 minutes here and there with pause in between to take care of other real life responsibilities. I have found myself playing more games on my Android phone and tablet than in years prior after being resistant to these touch games in favor of keyboard/mouse and larger display.
I think the comment that "It just seems that the level of excitement about gaming just isn’t the same as it was a few years ago." is largely projection rather than a frank evaluation of how things are. I would have said the same thing in 2004-2005, for example, but it was actually *me* that was simply not getting excited about games, because honestly there is more important stuff to worry about. Breath of the Wild was the only game I got "excited" for in the run up and I wouldn't have bothered to buy it if it meant waiting in line.

As far as Game Development, it's the golden child of software development. You ask people "Why did you get interested in programming" and a sizable chunk of them are likely to answer in some way that relates to video games, and say they want to make vidieo games. Very few are going to say that Microsoft Excel captivated their youth and ever since they were a young child they had always wanted to work on graph programming. As a result, Game Programming as a profession has so many people who "want in" that the employees are somewhat expendable.


Personally my interest in programming was definitely sparked by games, but my interest in games was replaced by an interest in programming in general. So many developers want so much to work on video games that they ignore the places where they aren't going to have as many people competing with them. I work on business software and I quite like it. It's rewarding because I am responsible for many parts of a rather large product that I can be proud of and stand behind, since I know it helps people do their jobs well. And new features are clear, rather than vague. You aren't going to find "subjective opinion" about whether an invoice was voided correctly, as you would with more ephemeral stuff like combat systems or driving physics or whatever. And honestly I like writing code to bill power meters no less than I do code to make an explosion in a game.

I still write small games, because it can still be fun. I usually make clones of "classic" games like snake or breakout, then add features that seem fun not only to implement but play. For example one of my Breakout clones has a "boss" enemy that is a snake made out of invincible bricks, as well as a "Pac-Man" Boss that tries to eat the ball. I don't even ever plan it as a finished game. I  just come up with ideas and put them into the game engine.Good info BC, and I agree with it, and its also the reason why i got into programming was playing games and wanting to bend-games to add my own twist to open source games in BASIC for example etc where I would learn mostly from breaking the games how to make things move faster or slower or add my own content to zork like type games and then run off on my own making ASCII based Zork like games which were fun when adding random generator to load up different random scenarios so it was never the same each time played. In which playing the same linear game and being able to map out the flow chart to beating it I found kind of dull, but by adding the unknown to it, it made it fun for me the programmer of the game because I didnt know what was going to happen when making decisions.

One thing I didnt share earlier that I am going to share now is.... Game Complexity seems like a race. A race to make something really good with the latest hardware that consumers will buy to game on. Hardware and Software evolving, it can be a lot to try to keep up with. Then you have to worry about being able to support the latest of hardware which might have surprise flaws or bugs by hardware design in addition to supporting more common hardware such as video cards etc.

And as a developer as the next engine for example becomes available, you need to master it fast and be able to create a realistic and viable product to make money quickly because you dont want to put so much effort into making a game and then there is even a better engine before release and competition makes a better game that isnt so cartoonish in graphics and play and they steal your business launching something with better eye appeal.

There have been game devs that have put time and money into games and tombstoned them before they were ever finished.  One of the companies was cool enough to release a partial game for people to play with that has an alien open world and there are NPC's that are lacking stuff to say when clicked on etc, but it was released under the agreement that someone cant take it as their own, but people can use it to build from for FREE open source gaming. I compiled it and got it running and was messing with it, but found myself in the situation similar to BC stated that other stuff is more important stuff to worry about so my time is limited, and so I toyed with it to have fun with it, but it would need a community of programmers to piece together the partially created game to complete it.

Here is the game that was tombstoned by devs and released for people to mess with for free that i played with. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryzom

Another open world game environment I have played with is OpenSIM. I got into messing around with OpenSIM through my play and adventure in Second Life a virtual hang out where you can create and program items for in game and sell them and convert the Linden with is their money system back to Dollars if your a good programmer and people buy your product, but Second Life is sort of at the end of its life. I started playing it in 2006 and it was way more active then. These days I go places to chat and have fun with other strangers and occasional friends as a Vampire or Human depending on which account I play and  it costs money to have places for people to hang out and if the rent isnt paid the places get wiped out and so some places are well funded and survive the test of time there and others come and go. People pool in certain areas and donate real money in the form of virtual currency that you buy with real money. I have spent probably $100 in all since 2006 on this so not bad at less than $10 a year. I was hoping to find a way to export items from Second Life to my OpenSIM to mess with items in my own private server type space, but havent found a way to export items from my account on the live Second Life SIM servers to my own private world. So I am stuck making everything there from scratch in which I am very good at making stationary objects, like buildings etc, but Second Life has realistic items like motorcycles and cars and waterfalls and all sorts of cool stuff but unless I code it myself or find someone who has the code to create in my OpenSIM. Its a rather boring island surrounded by ocean and the glare of the sun off the rippling ocean waves and clouds that move by in a blue sky vs Second Life which is HUGE and so full of interactive stuff.

So the race of having to be the best of the best and make a product before whatever your programming is obsolete is a problem. I look at it as stressful for game devs and not the kind of stress that i need, so I just program for fun these days and either make up my own stuff that is usually not games because when it comes to graphics and collision detection and all that, I am not good at that, so I make programs that serve personal purposes or ACT as a way to make my job easier etc with automation etc as well as farming the internet for information with a team of computers performing gathering of data automated to then use that data in graphs and reports to look for certain things of interest or trends etc which is completely legal and I have used it to make money in the past mapping cycles etc and buying low and selling high for stocks on etrade etc. But I havent made much money yet doing this, and right now finding something good to buy into looks horrible when the market I feel is ready to burst and drop with borrowed money reinvested etc that is making for a nasty bubble etc.  And I never borrow to invest, but its what i heard is a concern right now with others who are. So I am waiting for the next pop to buy in on for low risk and greater probability of payout companies that are too big to fail etc and have money spread out vs all eggs in one basket and lose it all.
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Solve : How Streamflow is Measured??

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Can you help  me with this? OK, not a direct computer question, but about an algorithm and methods used in the real world to determine water flow in large canals and RIVER beds.
How Streamflow is Measured
Part 2: The discharge measurement
https://water.usgs.gov/edu/streamflow2.html
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The USGS uses numerous methods and types of equipment to measure velocity and cross-sectional area, INCLUDING the following current meter and Acoustic Doppler Current Profiler.
I got behind  in school and never got into calculus. So if anybody here understands this, could he explain in simple language? 
Thank you,  Since there are a variety of lengths and depths , there are many different methods to measure bodies of water. In the link you provided the first method shows how to calculate the discharge using the cross sectional of the stream and a current meter. A cross-sectional is basically a 2d slice of the stream with sections cut into equal width and a variable length (depth). In calculus its a similar process called Riemann sums in which you approximate the area underneath a curve using rectangles or trapezoids. You would basically calculate the area of each rectangle and add them together to find the approximation.

For discharge after you find the area of one rectangle you multiply by the the velocity that is calculated by the current meter in that subsection. Which gives you the discharge for one rectangle. You would then repeat this process for each subsection and add them together to find the total discharge.


ADCPs are much easier to work with for larger bodies of water and even ocean velocity measurements. Ships have adcps attached underneath the ship itself to calculate the velocity. There are many types of ADCPs, but all of them send out High frequency beams which change in frequency as it hits the water molecules and other particles. The beam is sent back to the ADCP, in which it uses that change to calculate the measurement. Different frequencies work better depending on the depth in which it is used at.

You can also look into Drifters as well as they are another method for measuring water flow.

My work currently is actually using the data gathered from different sources and comparing their measurements to predictions called (HYCOM). This is so engineers can improve on navigation and other devices needing the velocity measurements.  I just write programs all day to do these analyses as a job.  And your last code crashed for 2 days...you left that part out....

Welcome Aboard ! 
Donutmuncher,
  Think you for your response. I like to know how things work and how experts make calculations about water flow. I live jut south of Oroville and recently we were told to evacuate the downhearted of Oroville.
Many people speculated wholehearted area would be covered with water. Some distraught people said  everybody shroud run . My family was one of those that did not. While waiting, I was looking at some maps published by FEMA and the US geological survey and was wondering how  people imagined the whole area would flood. Water does not flow up hill, does it?
Anyway, you answer helped me understand thee is logic and reason in the calculations of water movement in a river or large body of water. Thanks for the details.
Actually, there really was a lot of damage from the huge  flow of water released  over the Lake Oroville spillways. But at no time was the city itself flooded.
Again, thinks for your  clear explanation of water flow measurements. 
Quote from: patio on March 10, 2017, 03:54:54 PM
And your last code crashed for 2 days...you left that part out....

Welcome Aboard ! 


It's the worst when you leave your code running during the weekend hoping to get more data analyzed. You just come in and see a random error occurred in the middle of it


Quote from: Geek-9pm on March 10, 2017, 06:07:53 PM
Donutmuncher,
  Think you for your response. I like to know how things work and how experts make calculations about water flow. I live jut south of Oroville and recently we were told to evacuate the downhearted of Oroville.
Many people speculated wholehearted area would be covered with water. Some distraught people said  everybody shroud run . My family was one of those that did not. While waiting, I was looking at some maps published by FEMA and the US geological survey and was wondering how  people imagined the whole area would flood. Water does not flow up hill, does it?
Anyway, you answer helped me understand thee is logic and reason in the calculations of water movement in a river or large body of water. Thanks for the details.
Actually, there really was a lot of damage from the huge  flow of water released  over the Lake Oroville spillways. But at no time was the city itself flooded.
Again, thinks for your  clear explanation of water flow measurements. 



You're welcome! I hope the flood there causes little problems for you my friend. 


 The flood had little impact on the PLACE where we live.Infarct, this whole area did not flood. The flood was downstream. I dismayed that with all the technology available, so little  accurate information was available to the average person.

The damage was to the ecosystem.  They had to literally rescue fish for downing. really. The Feather River is home to species offish that only SURVIVE in fresh flowing water. When the water levels later dropped, the fish were trapped in muddy pools alongside the river backs.
359.

Solve : Family Radio Service.?

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The Family Radio Service has been available for a number of years now. But why would you need it? Well, in case of some kind of freak thing, you may find yourself separated from family members and your cell   phone might not work.

The cost of a pair of these hand held radios is so low tgaht you oughtto have a pair in your panic bag.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Radio_Service
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FRS radios use narrow-band frequency modulation (NBFM) with a maximum deviation of 2.5 kilohertz. The channels are spaced at 25 kilohertz intervals, with all frequencies ending in 2.5 or 7.5 kHz.

FRS radios are limited to 500 milliwatts according to U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations. Channels 1 to 7 are shared with low-power interstitial channels of General Mobile Radio Service (GMRS). A license is required for those channels if the power output is over FRS limits.[1]

The piratical range is a few miles under average conditions. But that could be enough to keep in touch in some scenarios.


[attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]Yes they are quite useful indeed!!!!!!!When you least expect it, cell phones towers can be shut down for maintenances or other reasons. Power outages in Winter can turn off solar powered systems.
Here is a recent article.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/how-to-survive-an-ice-storm-po/20680035
I have a set of radios I got for hunting and hiking. They were $50 and work well. They are rated for 2 miles but in the mountain AREA where I live its more like half a mile to 1 mile with your location key to broadcasting distance where elevation helps due to umbrella of radio waves. Everyone under the umbrella hears you fine, and if their umbrella radio field range under you overlaps your location you can then hear back from them. Only issue is that channels are limited and sometimes you get cross talk with other people on the channel.

Never thought of using them in an emergency situation to communicate if cell towers are down. With the weakening of the earths magnetic field and solar flares. The biggest concern would be if a flare hit the earth and spiked power lines and electronic equipment with damage like an EMP burning out chips and all. I was READING up on people taking ammo cans and using them as faraday cage containers to protect electronic devices from this kind of damage since the metal box acts as a shield. The movie goldeneye 007 they went to extremes with EMP created by a nuclear device in space to channel the EMP burst to earth. Lightning bolts emanating from everything metal and electronic. Fact is that its not that dramatic. You wouldnt know that the damage happened until you go to use whatever it is and it doesnt work anymore. As funny as it may sound, older electronics are better protected against EMP than newer. Such as if you had an old Tube Ham Radio and a battery to power it, it would PROBABLY survive a EMP since there is no transistors its all tube valves etc. While radios like these listed could be bricked with the traces in the circuit acting like a secondary coil to pulse over voltage chips and transistors and very small surface mount components that are sensitive to static or quick high voltage spike from EMP.  Years ago I had a Norelco Short Wave Radio and that thing worked really well. Sadly my wife thought it was an old piece of junk and tossed it on me. But had there been an emergency, that tube type unit would probably survive a solar wind direct hit to earth or EMP.

But ... scale of circuit length also comes into play as well. The more length of wire to act like a secondary or have a potential unequal to surroundings/atmosphere the damage is amplified such as burning out a telegraph system. Quote
Prior to the JULY 2012 storm, the largest recorded storm was the Carrington Event of 1859. A massive solar flare and CME struck Earth, destroying much of the Victorian telegraph network in Europe and North America.

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/186805-the-solar-storm-of-2012-that-almost-sent-us-back-to-a-post-apocalyptic-stone-age

I have 3 generators... Initially the one that I made myself with use of a 3.5hp motor and a 90 amp 1997 Mazda 626 car alternator capable of making up to 9 amps at 120VAC, and a simple circuit to start the field in the alternator with a push button. once the field is started with push button from 12VDC battery source then it continues a feedback loop to making its own electricity to sustaining the field in the alternator unless you pull too much draw and collapse the field. Then I bought 2 others when a Tractor Supply business came in and they had a grand opening sale in which i got a 6500 watt generator for $199 and a 3500 watt generator for $119. The 3500 watt generator is still in its box. The 6500 watt has gasoline in it and is prone to ethanol damage. So I just realized I need to start that up soon and flush out some of the ages gasoline. I shut off the fuel valve when its running before shutting it off so that no gasoline remains in the bowl of the carburetor. Ethanol mixed gasoline if left in a carb will corrode and destroy a carb fast. the generator that I made with 3.5hp motor and 90 amp alternator I want to dismantle and  make a box with forks to mount to rear wheel for 26" bicycle and make the ability to peddle power turning my 18 speed mountain bike into a stationary peddle generator. Just havent welded up the forks and frame yet with alternator connected to a drum that rear tire tests on that spins like car tire on a dyno drum.  Maybe that will be a summer project.I've owned several different pairs of FRS radios and tried to use them when we were RVing to keep in touch when we split up at a campsite and such.  I FOUND them to be nearly useless because the range was never more than about 1/4 mile in the areas we camped in so stopped using  them.
360.

Solve : How 5G technology enables ... things?

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Darrell M. WEST recently wrote an article with the title:
How 5G technology enables the health internet of things.
Here is the link:
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/How-5G-tech-enables-health-iot-west.pdf
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Advanced digital networks will bring TOGETHER a SYSTEM that connects billions of DEVICES and sensors enabling advances in health care,  education, resource management, transportation, agriculture, and many other are
He knows what he is talking about.
The article is WORTH reading. 
361.

Solve : Never ever try this at home. HDD in Oil.?

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Instead, just surf the Internet and find somebody who already tries it. For some unknown reason, somebody started the idea of putting a hard disk drive in oil and letting the oil penetrate the whole thing.
(If you do this in Silicon valley, it is prof that you rare insane and a threat to society.)
Search You Tube for:
hard disk drive in oil.
I counted at least SEVEN videos. Hard to believe. Whee do people get these ideas?

- from You Tube. 
Morons... there is a breather filter on the drives to normalize barometric pressure between inside case and outside. Oil will penetrate through this and get on the platters. 

A hard drive should never run hot to the point that you need to liquid cool it. The metal case that the drive is mounted in should sink away plenty of heat. Drives may get warm but if running hot then there is a problem.

Additionally there is no overclocking for hard drives, they are only as fast as they are and no faster. SHORT stroking on a HDD is the closest thing i can think of to trying to SQUEEZE more performance out of one and it will only work for data that is used frequently that is a small partition at the start of the drive where seek time is shortest. RAID 0 would be best for trying to get faster performance from a HDD, but today with super fast SSD's RAID 0 is almost a waste when SSD's are better for speed of data read/write.

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I counted at least seven videos. Hard to believe. Whee do people get these ideas?

They have no clue what they are doing is stupid. There is no gain and the drive is going to die when the oil gets past the breather filter. Just because dunking a motherboard in oil will be able to allow for a system to be liquid cooled in mineral oil and overclock well with the heatsink properties of a liquid coolant doesnt mean its a good idea for a hard drive and will give a performance benefit. In fact its a stupid idea to dunk a motherboard and all components as well because you have components that are bathed in oil and the oil would be difficult to remove. In fact a isopropyl alcohol bath is probably the chemically safest way to remove all the oil, but then you have where the slightest spark = a fireball as well as fumes in a confined SPACE = explosion risk. I use to work in PCB manufacturing with a wave solder machine and isopropyl alcohol was used to get flux off of PCB's and then last step was an actual wash in hot water, and then a dryer. I was fortunate that when i started there they stopped using the freon bathing of PCB's before 1995.

If you want to liquid cool buy a kit designed for the specific cooling need and go that route. If you want to damage components lose money and have a mess on your hands listen to youtube and copy someone else that essentially jumps off a bridge with their computer into a oil VAT

Next will be a video of a Optical Drive like an expensive BluRay drive taking a bath because it makes it so much better to be well lubricated and cooled in oil. Maybe even sell someone on the benefit of laser refraction in oil.
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Solve : How do i delete my account??

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How do i delete my ACCOUNT?
Don't need it anymore.

Shouldn't this be in the account SETTINGS?
Couldn't FIND it, but maybe im just blind.Don't worry about it. Just don't use it.So.. Its not possible to delete it? That sounds kinda suspicious.
Can I CHANGE my username then?ctrlindel,
You can change INFORMATION in your profile to hide your identity.
Your real name, your birthday, your email or anything that you want private.

Figured it out, but thanks anyway

For anyone else wondering:
Go to profile, click on "actions" and then on delete account
Bye guys.

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Solve : Californai Floods Challenge Technology.?

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OK. This is off topic.
You would think with all the technology that has come out of this state that the people here would have good and reliable information about important things.
Yet the experts are not able to foresee some infrastructure cross-correlated to the weather and construction practices.
Case in  point: A BIG chuck of the concrete spillway of the Oroville Earth Dam NORTH of Sacramento blew away. Not an explosion, bet almost. The spill way was dumping a record amount of excess water from the lake and a huge part of the concrete just fell into a pit. Nobody did anything until the next day.

Why could not engineers have predicated this with computer simulations? It came as a surprise. Not cracks, no rumbles. Nothing. But there is no immediate damage. But the timing was very bad. Northern California Sacramento Valley is under Flood  Alert warning. .A very bad time to had any trouble with biggest earth dam in the USA.
(It is 226 meters high, and made of packed earth.)

So, I am wondering why the engineers did not know about his ahead of time?  I thought computer simulations would have predicted that SORT of thing ahead of time.
What are computers for anyway?  Games?

[attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]Simulations aren't magic, they are high level abstractions. They can be used to determine if a structure will likely withstand a certain force but it's not usually going to model detailed specifics of the construction material. For example if you build a simulation of a Copper and Iron bridge, it will tell you if the bridge will be strong enough to hold a certain number of cars or hold together with a certain wind (eg. predict whether you're trying to build another Gatling Gertie) but it's not going to tell that you're an idiot and the bridge wouldn't last more than a few years due to galvanic corrosion. You aren't going to run a simulation and have it say "FAILURE will occur in January 20th, 2019 at 1:49PM during a powerful Winter storm." You aren't going to get that sort of granularity without a much lower-level simulation, which we simply don't have the computing power to do.

Structures fail for all sorts of reasons. Some predictable, some not. A billboard could fall over in 2008 because an overweight jogger leaned against it in 1968 and weakened one of the support beams, and then in 2007 a group of teenagers climbed on top and thought it would be fun to swing it back and forth, and then it fell over during the next storm. That's not something predictable with simulations.
On top of that an earthen dam has far more variables than say a concrete structure... Quote from: patio on February 09, 2017, 07:59:54 PM

On top of that an earthen dam has far more variables than say a concrete structure...
Yes, they have to inventory the worm population every spring. 

Post Script: Here are some more photos of the dam *censored*.
http://j.tinyurl.com/jglkwrg

It is Sunday Feb 12 about 6 pm.
We live at 300 feet. Oroville is about 200 feet. People in that area are leaving the city and going either north or east to high ground.

No specific details have been given as to how high the water will come.

What's of concern is the lack of ability to calculate how much the water will rise overnight. The are years of history for this watershed and somehow they did not see that the water was rising faster than expected. I think the engineers count on toes and fingers. 
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Really, there has already been a major amount of damage done to the environment. Major property damage is now very likely.
If you want to follow this, look for TV stations in the northern California area.

KGO TV     http://abc7news.com/
KCRA        http://www.kcra.com/local-news
KHSL        http://www.actionnewsnow.com/home/

The evacuation instructions were not good. There are major traffic jams of the highways.
Follow up.
My original idea for this topic was about using computer simulation to help predict possible scenarios of environmental changes. Namely, is the rain going to bring a flood. Here is a link to a screenshot of a topo map of Oroville and the Dam.

http://geek9pm.help9pm.com/CH/oroville_topo.png

Looking at the map, it is not clear why the local authorities are telling some many people to leave the area.Do they have some kind of computer simulation that says water will flow uphill?

No details about exactly where the flood basin will be. The exit roads they recommand are lower that most of the  greater Oroville are. In flowstone must run downhill?

Highway 70 leaving  Orville just under 200 feet above sea level.

So to re state my topic, Is there a computer simulation the will predict that water will flow uphill. Or that the laws  of physics change when people are afraid?

Just asking.   I was able to find a web site that shows the projected fold area. However, I am disappointed that no explanation wa  given for the map they posted.

The officials say they made a DECISION based or consultation with others, but there are no diagrams or exact lists of what areas they say will be affected.  So they just told everybody to get out of town.

One would think that  it would be better to not have an evacuation if you do not provide the exact and reliable information people need. It is hard to believe that no computer simulation was done. Lessor reservoirs have had computer simulations relevant to flooding in California and Nevada . The was about ten years ago when Reno was flooded by water from the mountains of California.

I apologize for making this soundalike criticisms of the local officials. In other areas of Northern California computer flood simulations are  often used to help locals manage flood control.  So one would wonder if the Oroville decision was based on a real analytical study including computer projections.

The state of emergency still exists. No homes have been flooded. The river is a its normal level.  Some experts outside of the government are saying that no no wide-spread folding will come. Some news reports are starting to pick up on this. Meanwhile, it is said that about 100,000  people have left their homes.
It would seem the officials have not used computers to analyse the issue. The artwork on local TV stations only show animations of what has happened. That would suggest they do not have any real projections made by computer simulation.  IMO, the proper use of computers could help the officials make better decisions.

Put another way, any high-school mah teacher sound tell yu not to put 100,000 people onto 100 miles of narrow highway unless you had a real danger.

A recent photo:

When first posted, I was thinking there was some kind of error in MODELLING. So I wrongly thought t that there was some kind of defect in a computer model.
Wrong, Wrong and Wrong.

There is no error in any kind of simulation, calculation or estimation. The real issue was documented years ago and has nothing to do with technology at all. Not about physics. It was, as is, about biology.

The matter is clearly a political issue and I regret t that I stated this post. This sort of thing does not fit  a a forum about the use of computers and technology.

So, this topic could be closed. Or even removed. You may PM me if you want more information. In sort, the media has lied to us to promote a political agenda.
364.

Solve : What might kill Silicon Valley?

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What might kill Silicon VALLEY? It lives by the energy of young people who are strongly motivated. Take that away and he technology will fade. A large number of the bright young people there are not while middle-class native born.

First of all, this is not about politics. It is about Silicon Valley history. Some of us who worked and lived in and around Silicon Valley and San Francisco understand the diverse make up of the people that live and work there. Some voices for  the valley are now CONCERNED about the future of the Valley if the federal government would make migration much more difficult.

Here are some recent ARTICLES  RANTS you might want to see.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/08/technology/personaltech/why-silicon-valley-wouldnt-work-without-immigrants.html?_r=0

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/indiegogo-ceo-silicon-valley-is-an-echo-chamber-194715269.html

Comments?

365.

Solve : How Does Wireless Charging Work??

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Someday you will use computer that has no power cord. Many smart phones are almost there already. They can recharge w without  using the charger cord.

How Does Wireless Charging Work?

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Wireless charging as a concept has been around since inventor and physicist Nikola Tesla first concluded that you could transfer power between two objects via an electromagnetic field, said Ron Resnick, president of the Power Matters Alliance, which has a wireless charging protocol.
That can help prevent this:

It works via Electrical induction.

The reference to Tesla is weird. He seems to get inserted all over the place in anything related to power, wireless, or electricity. he had nothing to do with the discovery of electrical induction, though, given it was discovered by Michael Faraday over 20 years before he was born.

Next thing we'll be hearing that Nikola Tesla invented the Faraday cage.Before diving into the Nick Tesla thing, some details need to be outlined.

https://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/data/downloadables/1/2/4/6/magnetic-resonance-or-magnetic-induction.pdf

Electromagnetic Induction is most often used in power supplies and audio applications.
But for applications like smartphones, a higher efficiency is desirable. So resonant induction is used to transmit moderate power of a distance of  a fraction of an inch.

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© The Wireless Power Cons
The Alliance for Wireless Power offers only one choice: “single coil, loosely coupled, resonant”. That configuration is not optimal for all applications. The  WPC believes that product developers need  more options to choose from. The solution “single coil, loosely coupled, resonant” is just one of the  options offered by the Wireless Power Consortium.
There is controversy over this technology.  I posted this here so that others could understand some of the background stuff.

There are some very strange stories about the the HISTORY of electricity
Men Who Discovered Electrical Phenomena
Tesla is given credit for some discoveries.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/5-things-you-didnt-know-about-nikola-tesla/

I did not intend to START  a debate about Tesla, rather I want to draw attention to the need to pay attention to new protocols and standards being offered for portable devices. Namely, wireless charging  cradles for  smartphones.



I personally prefer that they keep electricity the way it is on the small scale for wireless power transmission and everything else a wired connection. Because a strong enough inductive field could degauss the planets core. The planets magnetic core has been weakening and the earth has had its poles flip NS SN NS SN many times in the past. The field is weakening faster now than in past history 5% per 10 years vs per 100 years and wouldnt it be interesting if the power transmission we have on the surface is SOMEHOW affecting the cores field and causing the cores field to weaken faster than naturally. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earth-s-magnetic-field-flip-could-happen-sooner-than-expected/I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "degauss", Dave. Degauss only applies to "remnant" dipole magnetic fields, such as those in a typical bar magnet.

The Earth's Magnetic field is not a remnant magnetic field, though; it is an active one, generated via the geodynamo created by the rotation and convection of the Earth's molten outer iron core. You cannot "degauss" such a field; the changing strength of the magnetic field and the occasional reversal is due to changes in the movement of the outer core fluids.

eliminating the Earth's magnetic field would require greatly slowing the Earth's Rotation or solidifying the core; For example, Venus has a molten Iron core, but it has no substantial magnetic field because it takes longer than a Venusian Year for a single rotation; conversely, Mars has a rotation similar to Earth, but because it has a mostly solid core, there is no conductive fluid to form a dynamo and generate a magnetic field, so it's magnetic field is a largely a remnant dipole field.

At any rate, the major problem with induced fields at a larger scale is largely one of efficiency. If we apply this to a PC, If  there is no power cord- where does the power come from? If it works like smartphone chargers, it would be sitting on an inductive plate- which itself is plugged in, so I think saying there is no power cord in such a scenario would be a bit misleading.Dictation.
We're a long way from ever building a magnetic induction device that would shift the Earth's magnetic field. Still, concern for environmental damage is a consideration with new devices that are being manufactured. Some reports claim that wireless charging devices are not friendly with the  environment. That's debatable, and in the future it will become clear.
But back to the reason why I put this here. There are presently two different interests that are claiming to be the standard for the wireless charging technology. These two clashing groups are going to make it difficult for us consumers. If you buy the wrong device, you will end up with an orphaned device that in future years will not be usable. This is a sad situation, the differences in wireless charging technology are not so huge that we need to have two conflicting standards for the technology.
Let me recap something I mentioned earlier. There are two kinds of wireless charging technology in use at the present time. One is simple induction that requires both the transmitter and receiver to be closely coupled, so  rack , holder or  a cradle to  keep the smart phone within one centimetre of the inductive transmitter. That type of device has moderate efficiency and a rather simple design. A common example of this would be the rechargeable toothbrush. Certainly you don't want to brush her teeth with something that's plugged into electrical socket. By making the cordless toothbrush wireless it becomes a very desirable and practical device.
The other way is use of a assonant inductive coupling. This is cool, but pricey.
And let's talk about smart phones. With smart phones you could go either way, either a simple inductive device or the other kind of device that's called our RF  wireless charging technology. This kind of technology has some benefits and also has some serious disadvantages.
One of the benefits of the RF method is that the device does not have to be carefully positioned over the transmitter. Also, it's possible to charge two or more devices at once if the transmitter is in the form of a bowl or cradle that would hold more than one device. Now about the downside. It costs more. And the efficiency is very poor.
There would be less need for any of this wireless charging technology if the manufactured had made better electrical connectors. Some electrical connectors being used in present-day cell phones are despicable. Apparently the schools are no longer teaching people anything about mechanical engineering. At least it looks that way. It should not be so hard to make electrical connector that is reliable, easy-to-use and cost-effective.
There are some applications where the wireless technology is almost a necessity. One case would be with medical devices that have to be worn or even inserted into the body of a patient. In these devices can be recharged with the RF technology, it would be more cost effective than having somebody going into and out clinic three times a year to have his batteries checked. Cutting somebody open just to check the charge in his batteries is a risky procedure.
But in order for this technology to succeed, it has to be accepted by the masses to bring the cost down. So the manufacturers of wireless charging technology are going to be pushing more and more of their PR into convincing people that they really want to have these devices in their life.
The point I wanted to make with this post was the need for the average user to pay attention to what's going on in the marketplace and being aware that you will have to make a decision about whether not you want this technology in your life.
Now about this business with Tulsa. Long ago he wanted to explore the idea of transmitting electrical power over long distances without the use of wires. At first this seems like a fantasy, but there is some logic to what he wanted to do. Transmission of electrical energy over long distances using copper wire is not really very cost effective at all. Actually, it is more effective to put down a pipeline for natural gas and run natural gas into local generating stations. Do the math. What does it cost to put in these huge monster towers that carry 100,000 V over a distance of 500 miles? Then after doing that, figure out how much energy can you transmit through a steel pipe carrying natural gas? Natural gas is almost as free as hydroelectric energy. Well, when you consider the cost of building a dam, hydroelectric energy is not really free at all anyway. So you have the dilemma of choosing between hydroelectric power for natural gas power. Many people believe that hydroelectric energy is much better than natural gas. But that's debatable.
About the wireless charging technology. Is it really scalable? Could it really be in large to the point of where you could transmit a large AMOUNT of power over a distance of say 100 miles at a reasonable efficiency? Well, using our present knowledge, the answer would have to be no. It's very difficult to find microwave equipment that will generate more than 10,000 W of microwave energy at a reasonable efficiency. If you have a massive array of microwave transmitters, you have the problem of trying to synchronize all these transmitters of the Therrien phase. And even if you did that, there is the hidden health and safety issue. Imagine the somebody is flying around in a hang glider and he drops down to the altitude of these microwave towers and he gets sapped by 10 MW of microwave energy. That would be very bad news.
Anybody who wants to do more research on this idea of wireless charging technology can search on the following keywords:
Wireless Power Transmission.
And of course the acronym for this is WPT.

Another miss concept is about whether not the wireless charger could interfere with radio and television reception. The answer is yes. That is why some of the current technologies are restricted to use frequencies that have already been allocated to microwave ovens. At the present time microwave ovens are supposed to be on the frequency of 916 MHz. This means that that frequency cannot be used for much of anything else except some kind of high-power transmission. That frequency now is ruined for you sass a form of radio or television communication. Of course, if the transmission is very stable and does not have a wide bandwidth, it doesn't present much of a hazard to radio communication.
As for myself, I have mixed feelings about this. I don't like the idea of using a technology that's expensive and not efficient. But on the other hand, I don't like the mass of wires it accumulating in my workspace. It's a safety hazard. Someday I'm going to trip over this mess of  wires and break a leg.
End of dictation. Quote from: Geek-9pm on January 30, 2017, 07:48:04 PM
Nick Tesla
I didn't realise you were such close buddies.
Quote from: Salmon Trout on February 01, 2017, 12:04:26 PM
I didn't realise you were such close buddies.
Here is rare foto of us.
Regarding phones, I don't see this wireless charging concept to be very practical, particularly when thinking about charging away from home or even charging from different locations at home.  Carrying a wireless charging device around seems more cumbersome than carrying a conventional charger. Charging with a wire connected to a wall wart or a USB port, at least you can move the device around and use it while it is charging.I've got a wireless charger for my Nexus 6, basically i just set the phone on top and it charges.

The main advantage over using a connection- aside from not having the negligible hassle of plugging it in, is that there is no wear on the charge port. Quote from: BC_Programmer on February 03, 2017, 06:17:01 PM
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The main advantage over using a connection- aside from not having the negligible hassle of plugging it in, is that there is no wear on the charge port.
So true! Out family has lost two smartphones because the  connector does not stand up to daily inserts.  You pay $35 for a new phone. Or else pay a tech to replace a $2 connector and he wants $20 for his work. And in six months do it again. The price is dropping. They will go under $10 as market demand.goes up.
Even, eBay has some under $7, so the technology is not expensive.
366.

Solve : Why Tour USA in August 2017.?

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Are you planning to travel to the USA or make a tour of some  states?
Here are some ideas.
The Maine Lobster Festival.
The  South Dakota, the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally.
The Payson Rodeo in Payson, Arizona.
The Nevada  Burning Man Festival.
The State Fairs. Several states hold their state fairs during AUGUST.
They INCLUDE WEST Virginia, New York, Minnesota, and Iowa.
OR:   
The Total Eclipse of 2017
This was not staged by political interests. It was in the planning long, long before the present political environment.
The event is an exclusive venue to a few of the lower STARES only.
Google Total Eclipse USA for dates, places and exact time.

Myself,I will watch it as a re-run on cable TV.   
It will be called "The Great AMERICAN Eclipse'

367.

Solve : What do you know about methane??

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You may know that methane is found everywhere here on Earth. And you heard the GMC has made some methane bring cars and trucks.
But did you know it is also in the moons of SATURN?
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/21446/20160502/nasa-discovers-strange-methane-sea-on-saturns-moon-titan.htm
This recent discovery could mean that future interplanetary space trips may include a visit to the ringed plan's moons for a recharge of methane rockets. Yes, methane already is being PROPOSED as a fuel for rockets.
For more information, just do a GOOGLE on some KEYWORDS or phrases that include the word methane.
Try:
  methane as fuel
  methane on moon
  methane rocket
  liquid methane
What do you FIND?

368.

Solve : UK cell phone SIM card scam has a forum?

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Moderator. Please read this before you lock it.
Thousands of people have complained about  Freedom pop, a UK company that sells global SIM cards for unlocked GSM devices.
Well, used as directed, the cards work.But they WANT you to buy more stuff. Then after awhile can have problems and the support people cannot help you. Wait. Itgets worse. Here comes the bad part.
FreedomPop wants you credit card number. But son you will find strange charges made to your account. Thais has happened over and  like an endless echo.
Now the kicker. They have a user forum. Yeah, a user forum.
Look here:
https://forums.freedompop.com/discussion/15991/charged-for-a-free-service
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I was going to try the just the data rollover, but its says "completely free for the rest of your plan period"
So does the trial end at the same time as your billing cycle? if so then you have to cancel it before then, and then surely your data won't roll over??
If that's right then how is it a free trial? or am I missing something here?
Well, he gets reply that makes it sound alright. The 'forum' goes on to entertain other unhappy users and the response spins to the positive.

I posted this here because I have mentioned this earlier. I had to cancel my credit card. For me an oversight of $90 is not trivial.I am toasting for a refund.

The advertising states you can have free talk, data and text. But you have to read the details, which are not seen the advertising.  If  exceed  the limit,they charge you for the extra time. The is no obvious way to automatically limit your usage.

Apparently the want customers  to be confused. Look asthis:
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When I downgraded my Trio SIM the day before the month's free trial ended up popped, there was the offer of 'please accept one month of rollover data as a parting gift'. When I clicked to accept the offer up popped an error message saying 'Error. Unable to process your purchase (sic)' and advising me to contact support.
Again, the moderator gives a nice answer.
Here is more:
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I sent Freedompop a message via the main website and within half an hour I received a response. That was it, situation sorted very quickly, efficiently and first time of contact. I cannot fault them on their customer service as it was impressive......and I have worked in call centres so know what PRESSURES they can be under.
So, I complained (or more factually, I had a major dummy spitting whinge) and they apologised, rectifying the situation. No drama, no trying to avoid the situation, just bang!! and it's sorted.
Another...
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was charged $12.98 for what FreedomPop says that I had the Global Plus 300 ($4.99) and Premium Plus ($7.99) service which I did not subscribe to. On their website under My Plans, it shows that I have the Global basic which shows $0.00 monthly (and NO Premium Plan). I have disputed the charge with my credit card and do not trust FreedomPop with my credit card information since they apparently charge whatever they want for their "free" service. I will ALSO post this experience to Facebook and other social media so potential customers can be warned about FreedomPop's practices.
These are only the tip of the iceberg.
The Better Business Bureau ans nothing good to say about FreedomPop.

BTW, I now have one free phone number and a SIM card that let's me make a phone call. But I shall not use it very, much. Mayne not a tall.

Now comes the real bad news. Nobody wants to stop them.  Why?
Google this:
who invests in FreedomPop
... it seems that some big investors have put money into FreedomPop. This might be another test balloon that will soon pop.
Who said this?
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... partnering with FreedomPop to extend its deep OPERATING relationships and knowledge of, emerging markets and telecoms which will be crucial in helping FreedomPop achieve its global targets… This announcement follows L1’s receipt of clearance from the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States ('CFIUS') to complete its $50 million investment in FreedomPop," the company said in a statement.
Read more: https://sputniknews.com/business/201608301044781259-russia-fridman-startup-freedompop/

Yes, posting here will not change a thing.
Just makes me feel better if a  few of you read it.    Quote from: Geek-9pm on January 13, 2017, 10:35:49 PM
Freedom pop, a UK company

Just in case anyone thinks us snaggle-tooth Limeys are up to stuff, FreedomPop is a wireless Internet and mobile virtual network operator based in Los Angeles, California. Last I time I checked, that city was in the United States.

We do have mobile (and fixed line) phone companies that promise a lot, make it easy to join but hard to leave, that hit you with unexplained or hidden charges, and take a month of Sundays to put things right. Some of these companies are pretty big. However, you will find this all over the world. This isn't King George trying to screw you over. It's one of your own, buddy.

Some comments from that page, which suggest that some of the problems are due to poor customer service facilities:

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I will give FreedomPop their due, I sent an email and within half an hour received a response that I was not expecting. They have promised me a refund and I have received another email saying it is in progress. If I get the refund then I cannot fault their customer service and might reconsider the service as a whole. I rate customer service as important and you only really find out how good a company is by how it deals with problems

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I sent Freedompop a message via the main website and within half an hour I received a response. That was it, situation sorted very quickly, efficiently and first time of contact. I cannot fault them on their customer service as it was impressive......and I have worked in call centres so know what pressures they can be under.

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So, I complained (or more factually, I had a major whinge) and they apologised, rectifying the situation. No drama, no trying to avoid the situation, just bang!! and it's sorted.

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I downgraded my sin=m before the trial period ended, and made sure there were no add ons, and have had no problems that was 3 months ago, I have never been charged on that sim, it is kept mainly as a backup

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I was charged $7.99. He promised to call me back, but I have no evidence that this happened. Today I called my secret number only to find that the offices are closed. I called at 3pm CDT.

Despite all this I am a great fan of FP. Since Feb. 2016, I manage 5 accounts for family members, and I stay on top of every little detail that could cost me anything. I get the sense however that FP is over extended

Yep, FreedomPop are a US based company. Their website claims to offer service in the UK although I've never heard of anyone using them. Telecommunications providers over here definitely seem to be a lot better value and less dodgy than the market in the US seems to be.I was wrong. I am sorry. 
Something made me think it was UK. 

EDIT:  Anybody  in the UK can learn more about FreedomPop here:
https://forums.freedompop.com/categories/freedompop-uk
Quote from: Geek-9pm on January 14, 2017, 03:13:24 PM
I was wrong. I am sorry. 
You're lucky we don't SET Rick Astley on you.

Revenge of the Brits

369.

Solve : Installing a wireless IP home security camera?

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Hello,

I am trying to install a Wanscam wireless IP home security camera inside of my mom's residence. In the Wanscam video below, they instruct that in order to activate the camera you FIRST have to connect the camera via cable to your router. But I have a wireless Internet connection and I don't have the kind of router that is shown in the video. Is there another WAY that I can activate the camera so that I can watch it on my LAPTOP?

Thank you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnvnU67EoQo&t=173sWell, you could try going right to the source, i.e. the company, with your question.  At http://www.wanscam.com/, you see a phone # and a chat option.  A brief google search shows 10's of thousands with the same issue...can you still return it for a DIFFERENT Unit ? ?

370.

Solve : Hi all:)?

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Halla to all forum members:)Hello...How about an introduction about yourself?

HOBBIES, EDUCATION, interests, ....... anything else to SHARE that is appropriateEngineer as a education but computer FAN in the heart:)

371.

Solve : car insurance claims?

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1. Taxi trouble

When bad weather caused havoc on the roads of Britain this winter, one AA customer thought it would be safer to call a taxi than drive his own car to the station in snowy conditions. However he probably wished he had not bothered as, ironically, when the taxi pulled up outside his house it skidded and crashed into his parked car.

2. A lovers tiff

One customer had a heated argument with his girlfriend about whether it was safe for her to drive to work in the snow. In the end she stormed off, went on her way and he followed a short while later. Unfortunately, as he approached a set of red traffic lights, he skidded and collided with the rear of the car in front, which in turn hit the car in front of that.

And who happened to be in the third car? None other than the very girlfriend he had advised not to drive earlier that morning. The details do not record whether the claim was settled amicably or not!

3. Good cop car

One customer was surprised to learn his car had helped the police prevent a robbery of a jewellery store in a town some MILES away. The thieves had stolen his Land Rover to ram the roller shutter doors of a small shopping arcade where the jewellers was located.

£10 cash back on Home Insurance

However, not content to be an accessory in a robbery (and perhaps a cop car in a former life), the clever car ensured it got caught on the roller shutter, flipped itself onto its back end and wedged itself tightly in the entrance to the store. This meant the thieves were trapped like canned sardines and could do nothing but wait for the police to arrive.

4. Something rather sheepish

Another customer driving home from the pub with a friend had the fright of his life when there was an ENORMOUS thump on the roof of his car, which caved in bumping both companions on the head. The pair got out of the car just in time to see a sheep slide down the windscreen, spring on to the car bonnet and run off down the road. The sheep, it later transpired, had escaped from a transporter on the motorway that was involved in a collision.


Life cover for £1.08 a week
5. Doggy drivers

When one customer stopped his van on the side of the road to pop into his local shop and buy a newspaper, he did not expect to come out seconds later and find both his van, and the dog inside it, gone without a trace. When he asked bystanders if they had seen anything, one man remarked that he had seen a “large dog driving a van down the road”.

Somehow the dog's lead had wound itself around the gear lever and had released it. Fortunately, the van was stopped in its descent by another vehicle parked further down the hill.

6. Bad balance

One unlucky lady who was driving through woodland in her OPEN soft-top car received a nasty shock when a squirrel suddenly fell out of a tree above and into her car. In its panic to escape, the squirrel scampered over her in the car causing her to run off the road into a tree. Unwilling to hang around and make a witness statement, the uncoordinated squirrel shot up a nearby tree and vanished.

7. Toilet trouble

One motorist was left rather red faced when, after stopping in the woods late one night to “relieve himself”, he emerged from behind a tree to find his car had gone. In a panic he called the police and his insurer to report the theft and his Dad who came to rescue him. But the night was not over yet!

During the short journey home with his Dad the car managed to break down, forcing them to call for assistance. Later, when father and son poured out the events of the night to the AA Patrolman, he became puzzled by the fact that although the chap was only about 20 feet from his car he did not hear it start up. Acting on a hunch, they all returned to the “scene of the crime” only to find wheel tracks disappearing down a grass bank where his car was waiting patiently at the bottom.

Oh, so that is what the handbrake is for…

8. You snooze, you lose

When one customer parked his camper van on the beach to enjoy the view and a nice nap, he certainly did not expect to wake up to find his feet wet and someone in a boat banging on the window to rescue him. The tide had come in while he was asleep, and although he was safely rescued, the van sank without a trace.

9. Off your trolley

Another unfortunate lady calmly informed AA that her bonnet had been badly damaged after “several airborne shopping trolleys came flying towards her”. The offending trolleys had apparently fallen off the back of a delivery lorry.

10. Two in one

This final story apparently had the AA call centre in stitches. Two drivers tried to turn into a parking space at the same time and got jammed against cars on EITHER side. Stuck FAST and unable to open the doors, the fire brigade had to rescue them – while an audience of about a hundred people stood around laughing at them. Luckily they saw the funny side too!


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Solve : Office Design??

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Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone here could help me with SOMETHING that doesn't really fit anywhere else.

My partner and I have been running a small graphic design company for about a year now. It's getting to the point where operating out of my spare room is no longer acceptable and we're looking into getting a small office space in town to look a bit more professional

I was wondering if anyone here could point me in the direction of someone to design our office for us? We have a bit of capitol saved up and we WANT to invest it in something that looks good. Us working in a visual medium, we both agreed that would be a smart thing to do. I've been looking into these guys, but still looking around http://www.sensyst.com/index.php/office-interior-design/

Thanks for reading!
Chloe
Depending on budget and appearance you are looking for, and what the landlord will allow for changes in the business space a general contractor can usually do with whatever you suggest for the layout as long as it doesnt violate any codes.

I had an office space for a few years for computer repair business in a plaza that had rent that was almost too good to be TRUE. A commercial location for just $550 a month for a space that was 25ft x 40ft which included heat, but not electricity. Given the tight budget, I ended up buying 2nd or 3rd hand office furnature that was lightly used and some of which looked new through a local company that was downsizing at prices of 25% of the cost new for it all so a savings of 75% over buying new. I was able to put up cubicle walls quickly, install desks, chairs, build my own counter top for POS and have a small seating area just in case I had more than1 customer in at a time waiting for a computer upgrade etc. I was able to do this for around $1300, which would have cost me closer to $6000 if all bought new.

All was well until the PRICE of computers dropped and people started to buy new computers vs upgrade their old computers, and the landlord baited me in at $550 a month and within 6 months started asking for more and more money as the lease was a quarterly agreement, so I eventually closed shop when I was no longer making healthy profits, but was barely breaking even, which if I operated longer could have gone into the red.

Best of all, I was able to sell the office furnature and cubicle walls etc for $1000 so for $300 I got almost 3 years of use out of it. And there was no alterations to the commercial space that I rented so I didnt leave any money behind for the landlord to use as a incentive for future tenants.

373.

Solve : Bizarro News of the Day?

Answer» FULL Story...WOW! How did you find that, PATIO?
If that true story were made into a B movie, the critics would never, EVER accept it as EVEN remotely plausible. ABSOLUTELY incredible!
374.

Solve : Your best XP SP4 rumor??

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What is the best or worst rumor you read about a XP SP4 release?
That topic was popular a couple of years ago. But I just saw one that SAID they will do nit in 2014.  Have you saw  a recent one? If not, make up one!

The only rule  is this: You must be wrong! If you are right, you lose!

SP4 is being rolled out on Update Tuesday in December. Why are you humoring him ? ?I don't know, patio.While there wont be a SP4, it would be nice though if they offered a last and finall Rollup for Windows XP SP3, so that those who want to keep a redist updater for Windows XP can do so without having to get all the updates from Microsoft.

I have a folder on an external drive that I keep my slipsteam ISO's, Service Packs, and Redist Packages on and it would be nice to have an offline method to patching Windows XP to full service packs and all security patches vs just pushing service packs to a clean install of XP and then having to connect to Microsoft to perform the additional patches that waste time in downloading installing and reboot, and then downloading more, and installing, and a reboot, and just when you think your finally patched you have 3 more out of the 137 updates since clean install.

With Windows 2000 Pro SP4, there was a Rollup at the end of its life that covered all patches if my memory is correct, so that you didnt need to waste time going through the process which included downloading the patches etc.

If there was only a way to slipstream and XP install ISO with all service packs + patches + browser updates, etc Quote from: DaveLembke on October 15, 2013, 05:25:45 PM

If there was only a way to slipstream and XP install ISO with all service packs + patches + browser updates, etc

There is, see www.ninite.com (other ways are available, Ninite is one I've used many times successfully).

A post-SP3 rollup for XP would be nice, but I don't see them putting the effort in for a 12 year old OS.  Win2K SP4 was released 5 years after Win2K's initial release, the post-SP4 rollup was IIRC about 6 months later.  XP is a whole different ballgame, and I think by now they just want to get people off XP, rather than continue to spend development time on "nice to haves" to HELP people keep XP going. Quote
There is, see www.ninite.com (other ways are available, Ninite is one I've used many times successfully).

Thanks for suggestion of ninite. Definately going to check that out when I get home from work.Ninite is very useful indeed.  You can integrate specific updates and fixes, service packs, drivers, even most software...set up scripts to run after install...set up an unattended answer file easily (product key, user names and so forth) and even configure a lot of options available in Windows or system tweaks so they're done during the install, rather than having to do them afterwards.
I found it was a godsend for installing XP on systems where XP didn't have the storage driver, sure beats messing around with floppy disks. Quote
I found it was a godsend for installing XP on systems where XP didn't have the storage driver, sure beats messing around with floppy disks.

Yah I ran into same issue with XP and a ( vista era ) laptop with SATA controller driver that wasnt a part of XP SP2 install disc. I ended up using nLite to make a XP SP3 slipstream which also had the Toshiba Laptops SATA controller driver for XP added so that it wouldnt come up with Hard Disk Not Found during XP install. ninite looks like it will be a godsend for me too from the sounds of it, especially if it supports up to Win 7 or 8 etc to make those installs able to be customized for unattended etc as well.

I have set up and performed unattended installations before years ago using tools to make the answer file etc to make/burn a custom system disc that would perform an unattended install etc. Also used RIS, although I have no use for RIS or the later named Windows Deployment Service (WDS) at this time since I no longer deploy batches of like systems anymore like I use to at my prior IT job.FACEPALM

I meant Nlite, sorry!  Brain is fried from today, apologies.  Ninite is still a useful tool, but Nlite is what I was actually talking about, it does the whole unattended install business, hotfix and SP integration, etc.   Thanks for clarification... I have used nLite before, but never added msupdates to it, just slipstreams in the past added and drivers. Will dig into how to do that with nLite. As far as ninite goes, from what I read that also looks pretty cool to check into, so I will still check that out, but thanks for stating it was really nLite and not ninite so I didnt chase my tail.  Quote
FACEPALM

I was waiting for that one.... Sorry about that guys, had a long day at work and Ninite was involved somewhere along the line, they use some of the same letters and BOOM, heh.
Nlite only works for XP and possibly 2K, but Vlite is from the same developer for Vista, and I believe there are equivalents for Windows 7 though I've never used them.  To be fair, I don't see the need for them in Vista or 7 because you can load drivers (if needed) from a USB stick instead of a floppy, and the setup process requires less user involvement than XP anyway.  With XP, it was often quicker to integrate drivers and set up an unattended install than to install it "normally", with Vista/7 not so much unless you're doing lots of setups.
375.

Solve : Just in...from the Duuuhhh pile?

Answer» Full Story...Too bad its a short read, was getting interesting ... and then END of story. Will check out the youtube video when I get home later, maybe there is more info there.

I never really QUESTIONED why 3 keys vs 1 or 2. I thought that maybe there wasnt a single key for it because a single key can get bumped and launch the FUNCTION, and they wanted it to be DIFFERENT than 2 keys because 2 key combinations were used for cut/copy/paste etc type functions which are lesser functions than the ctrl+alt+delete all POWERFUL function that it is..LOL 

To read that it was a mistake was unexpected as for it seemed intentional to be way different than other key combinations.
376.

Solve : 2013: The Year You Get Hacked - Forbes?

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This article was published earlier this year. So it is not news. But it is something you may find very informative. Forbes magazine has some credibility. Lots of People read it. Here is basically what thy said back in April:
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This could be the year you get hacked … and it is going to GENERALLY be a tough year for computer security whether it’s on the consumer side or the corporate side.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/04/20/2013-the-year-you-get-hacked/
Why did they say that? Does it benefit them to scare us? Hartdly.
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Another flaw in the design of many consumer routers with built-in WiFi access points is that they still support WiFi Protected Access (WPA). WPA is where you press a button on the back of your router and enter a short code in your PC or tablet’s connection wizard and, voila! Your device is connected, theoretically, securely. Back in 2011 it was demonstrated that WPS could be hacked by a simple brute force method but the router manufacturers still provide the feature!
Yikes! I have one of those! Do you?
The reference in the Forbes article says, in part:
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At issue is a technology called “Wi-Fi Protected Setup” (WPS) that ships with many routers marketed to consumers and small businesses. According to the Wi-Fi Alliance, an industry group, WPS is “designed to ease the task of SETTING up and configuring security on wireless local area networks. WPS enables typical users who POSSESS little understanding of traditional Wi-Fi configuration and security settings to AUTOMATICALLY configure new wireless networks, add new devices and enable security.”
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/12/new-tools-bypass-wireless-router-security/
There is more. Forbes end nthis bad news nthis nway:
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2013 will be yet another year of growth in online threats and that growth promises to be biblical. Now is the time to rethink your security and remedial strategies because its quite likely that in the next few months you’ll find yourself so overwhelmed by security problems that there will be no time for forward thinking.
What do you think?  The year is almost over. How secure is your PC?  Have you CHECKED your router?  Recently?
Do a search on keywords 'router hacked' and see what you fin d.
377.

Solve : Today's Time Waster...?

Answer» Here YA GO...
378.

Solve : Happy Birthday Imnoguru ! !?

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Have a GREAT ONE !

379.

Solve : Slow Board?

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Anyone else seein this on their end the last 2 days ? ?No problems here.

Only slowness I have seen is at www.electronicspoint.com but I just joined up with them 2 weeks ago and not sure where their web presence is from so MAY be just latency if Australia ETC as I see some people with large post counters from Australia and New Zealand.I haven't had any problems here...Nathan was WORKING on it a couple of weeks ago TRYING to "speed things up" and he said that his efforts actually had a SLIGHTLY negative effect. I'm guessing he was able to correct things. Right now it seems fine but yes, it does have periods when it's a bit slow.Interesting.  I've definitely not noticed any slowdowns at all on CH recently.Yesterday and Wednesday are the only days i saw it...seems to be fine this morning.
I had no issues at other sites and Speedtest results were normal...above normal actually.

380.

Solve : Cheap Prepaid Phones with Internet by the month.?

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Cheap Prepaid Phones with Internet by the month.

Found on Lifehacker. You can afford a low-cost smartphone with  internet and no contract. If service goes bad, just stop and switch.  Pay for only what you want.
http://lifehacker.com/how-to-find-the-best-prepaid-plan-and-ditch-your-contra-485042945

Even tho the article favors the USA, some reader comments from the UK are interesting.
I was tempted to move this to SPAM...

I'll leave it up for now.Product/Activation may be cheap. Minutes and data come at a premium... QUOTE from: patio on September 30, 2013, 03:39:44 PM

I was tempted to move this to SPAM...

I'll leave it up for now.
Thank you Patio. No, I am not selling my iPhone. The article is from Life hacker and, IMHO, has appeal to CH readers. Many of use carry phones that we also use to check e-mail and look at what is new on CH. Some of the plans of the big four USA companies are outrageous. Some of the alternatives actually are spin-offs of the MAIN company.  It pays to look around.
From the article:
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The freedom of not signing a contract is great, but it has its own drawbacks, and may not be ideal for every situation. You might be interested if:
    You have an unlocked phone (and enjoy upgrading it frequently).
    You're looking to save some money and don't mind managing your usage.
    You need a burner for work/travel outside of your current network.
If you are currently in the middle of a two-year contract and considering jumping ship, take a look at our guide to avoiding termination fees for some tips.
And I did post it in Off Topic. I wanted to post it in the CH Android section... All i'm saying is it ain't as good as it sounds...far from it. Quote from: evilfantasy on September 30, 2013, 04:00:49 PM
Product/Activation may be cheap. Minutes and data come at a premium...

If you have a smart phone that's Wi-Fi capable, even data is cheap/free, on your home AP.  I have a Net10 prepaid smartphone.  The minutes are normally 10 cents a minute, and a number of plans have rates a fraction of that.  The phone itself only cost $50.  For my usage it's only $15/month.  They lease the lines from one or more of the "big four".  I save a ton over any of those contract plans.  Even if I did a lot greater usage, the plans don't necessarily cost much more ($5-10/mo. more).

The only real drawback is their tech. service isn't great.  If anything much goes wrong, they want you to go through the huge hassle of replacing your phone, instead of just trying to fix it for you.  I'm talking just software/OS/firmware problems here.  Most apps, phonebook, and any other user data that can't be sent to the memory card is not transferable.
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You have an unlocked phone (and enjoy upgrading it frequently).

BTW, how do you DETERMINE if you have an unlocked phone?
Here in Europe, we can get lots of cheap phone deals. I am with Virgin Mobile and I bought outright a "pay as you go" phone from them in May. (I think Americans call them "prepaid"?). It cost me 69.99 UK pounds (around 113 USD) and I had to "top up" (prepay) 10 UKP (around 16 USD) as part of the deal. I already had an Alacatel featurephone from Virgin, and I just had to SWAP the SIMs. The phone is a ZTE Blade III (Android 4.0 ICS, 4 inch 480 x 800 screen, 3G, 5 MP camera, GPS, etc etc). As a first smartphone it has got plenty of good reviews. At the time they had a deal where if you topped up with 10 UKP in any calendar month, you got unlimited data all the next month, leaving your top up credit for voice calls. As I don't make many outgoing calls (incoming calls are free here) I built up around 25 UKP credit so I have switched to a rolling 30 day "SIM only" contract. It costs 7 UKP (11.37 USD today) per month, and for that I get 150 minutes and 500 MB data. I can quit with 30 days notice or switch in store to a higher tier instantly e.g. 10 UKP for 1 GB data and 300 minutes or 15 UKP for unlimited data. I have used 120 MB in the last 30 days. I can get an unlock code for 15 UKP or take it into one of many phone shops for less.
381.

Solve : Test - can I lock this??

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TestNo

382.

Solve : Happy Birthday Peckerwood .?

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You are MISSED...R.I.P.RIP BUDDY!RIP, GREATLY missed...

383.

Solve : Happy Birthday Street1.?

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R.I.P. street1...we miss you.

patio.Ah, yes, Street1 was a DELIGHTFUL MEMBER of the forum. RIP, you are STILL MISSED.

384.

Solve : Voice Link Stinks. Ask New Jersey. Forget Fiber.?

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This would be posted in news, but it is a somewhat hard to follow because of the 'smoke and mirrors' of the big telecommunications monopolies. So I haven to snake it simple to explain what is going on here.

Verizon has a service called 'Voice LINK' that is a poor replacement for copper wire. Of course, that is not how they present it. The truth is the technology is retro grade to the extreme. It is a low grade radio service much inferior to copper wire. It is almost as if the phone company ripped out your landmine and gave you an old CB radio as a replacement.
For reference, here is a very recent link about the problem. Of cousrse, the problem is not new, just the review was on August 7 of this year.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/fiber-optic
Yes, the report e is about fiber optic. It is how they did not get fiber optic tat had been promised yeas gone by.
Just ask the people in New York and New Jersey about this.
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The irony in all of this is that Verizon failed to properly upgrade the entire plant with fiber optic services and yet collected money to do so -- billions per state. We discussed the situation in New Jersey where the entire state was to be upgraded to fiber and Verizon collected billions to do it. New York State's laws are somewhat DIFFERENT. However, in 2009, the New York State Department of Public Service increased basic rates to pay for massive fiber optic upgrades
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BTW: the term POTS is understood to mean a plain TELEPHONE service that can use a dial-up modem, accept a collect call, receive a FAX, make international calls and call 911 for help. The service Verizon has offered does not have these normal features.
Wanna talk about this?
Are you still  waiting  for fiber optic?  You won't get it. Quote from: Geek-9pm on August 16, 2013, 10:19:33 PM
So I haven to snake it simple to explain what is going on here.

Huh?

Quote from: Geek-9pm on August 16, 2013, 10:19:33 PM
It is almost as if the phone company ripped out your landmine and gave you an old CB radio as a replacement.

I don't have a landmine.

I like CB radios though...Verizon, others too, offered to bring conventional telephone service to people that did not have it. Verizon claims the estimated cost was based on simple voice quality service. But customers wanted that to include a connection that would support high-speed DSL.  That would HAPPEN in they were to install new high-quality copper wires
Anyway, Verizon did not give them the GOOD copper wire they wanted. Decent copper wire, with proper equipment, give speeds above 3 megabits and beyond. Verizon says that was not part of the deal. So they offered 'voice link' radio system to avoid the cost of installing copper wire.
The real cost of running fiber to the house is a par with run all new modem copper wire. In other words, where that is no poles, no wire, no radio and you have to start from scratch. Fiber costs about the same. Most of the cost is equipment, labor and wooden poles. Not the actual fiver itself.n This is not a transcontinental optical system. Just fiber optic into a rural area.
The big companies have some Smoke and Mirrors to make you think doing Fiber is like rocket science. Maybe it was 1995. Not today.
Really, there is a surplus of transcontinental optical systems. You can get it cheap. And yes, somebody is doing it. Another story. Say 'Dark Fiber'.
http://www.worldnetsolutionsinc.com/dark-fiber-optic/#
My pint was that big companies are taking advantage of us consumers. If you cheat me, tell me ton my face you want to chat me, please.
385.

Solve : A very short history of Windows?

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This is for you family members that need pictures and not much text.
A history of Windows
Highlights from the
FIRST 25 YEARS
They did miss some details.  Is this about how you wanted that crappy DR DOS to be usable with Windows or something? Quote from: BC_Programmer on August 25, 2013, 08:52:12 PM

Is this about how you wanted that crappy DR DOS to be usable with Windows or something?
Well,  you said it. I will just not say any more.

But would you like some other very OLD stories about the early days? Back in the days when some people though 'Microsoft'  was the name of a new WALT Disney entertainment project.
386.

Solve : Happy Birthday David Lembke ! !?

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Hope you have a Great ONE ! !Hey Dave - HAPPY BIRTHDAY

387.

Solve : How Bill Gates and Google are linked in space.?

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That is a trick title.But In fact, Gates made fun of Google's  idea of using balloons to spread the internet to remote areas. Sounds like a REAL JOKE. But Gates is working, KINDA, with Google. At least his money is.
This article was published in September, 2013.
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Gates doesn’t always see eye-to-eye with Google on the topic of spreading Internet connectivity around the world — recently poking fun at Google’s plan to use a network of balloons to provide Internet access to developing nations. But two of their portfolio companies are very much on the same page.
An agreement announced this week between Kymeta (whose investors include Gates) and O3B Networks (whose investors include Google) calls for the companies to develop prototype terminals based on Kymeta’s beam-steering antennas (pictured at right), connecting to SATELLITES launched by O3B to provide Internet service around the world.
http://www.geekwire.com/2013/bill-gates-google-linked-kymetas-satellite-broadband-deal-o3b/
Use the link about to get MO' info about how Bill Gates in in the project.
388.

Solve : OT: Marketing question?

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Hello! I wanted to ask people here who own some sort of business, what sort of promotion do you do for your product/service? I've only been using online social media since it's relatively easy but it doesn't ALWAYS get to the target audience I'm TRYING to reach so I'll be trying sms marketing with Silverstreet for a few weeks. Has anyone tried SOMETHING like that? Are there any other 'non-traditional' channels of marketing that are WORTH trying out if you don't have money for TV ads and that sort of stuff?

389.

Solve : Is FullMoviesDB.com a scam??

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Please move this if in the wrong place.
This happened on my Windows 7 64 bit PC, a Dell GX520.
I went to the site in the title and never got a free movie after doing a couple of downloads. Then I saw a disclaimer clawing they do not do what Google says they do.  Google had them down  as a free movie download site. The site advertises some recent movies and says you can watch it or download it after you complete an offer. Well, I did and it didn't.

So what is this? another way to circulate ad ware? Do I now need to do a anti-spuware scan on my Windows 7 PC?
Quote from: Geek-9pm on June 12, 2013, 01:09:24 PM

Then I saw a disclaimer clawing they do not do what Google says they do.  Google had them down  as a free movie download site. The site advertises some recent movies and says you can watch it or download it after you complete an offer. Well, I did and it didn't.

So what is this? another way to circulate ad ware? Do I now need to do a anti-spuware scan on my Windows 7 PC?

If a site has text saying "Free movie downloads!" and Google indexes that site, and shows it to you in a list of hits, it is merely repeating what the site says about itself. It does not mean that the Google company is saying that the site hosts free downloads. I don't like to teach my grandmother how to suck eggs, but it may be worth pointing out that there are LOTS of web sites with text on them like "Free iPhone!" or "*censored* starlets!" or "Free lunch!!! Click here!" or "Adobe Photoshop free download!" or dozens of other things that people SEARCH for. They end up in lists of Google hits. It is often a BAD idea to go to these sites and click on the links you see there. What they are, to put it plainly, is traps for the gullible. Gullible people are much prized by scam artists, because it is EASIER to get money out of them than more worldly wise folk. So yes it might be a good idea to do a spyware scan. Shouldn't you have some kind of protection anyway?

Thank you. Yes, I am a sucker. I still trust people aster all this yeas. I should knlow better by now.
Yes, I do have protection, but it did not flag this web site. Odd. I have the free version of Avast and often nit does warn me. You should also as suggested last week start using spellcheck...or preview before you hit the Post button.Sorry Patio. The spell checker does help and I do look. But I can not read phonetically anymore. So I have to let the spell checker guess. Or I could use the Speech recognition and that is a lot of fun.  Understood...didn't mean to make it an issue as i'm aware of your conditions...
Sorry.It's not necessarily adware, but most likely they've been making money off you by forcing you onto PPD (pay-per-download) sites. I don't know about other software, but McAfee Total Protection has SiteAdvisor, which warns you about bad websites.
390.

Solve : Story I missed: MS leaves Office starter.?

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Maybe you KNOW all about this. But I missed this story from last year.
Microsoft begins phasing out Starter edition of its Office suite
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Microsoft is rumored to be beefing up Office Web Apps significantly with the Office 2013 (codenamed Office 15) suite. While preview code for the LOCAL versions of the Office 2013 apps has leaked out since the start of this year, there has been very little leaked information about what Microsoft has done to tweak Office Web Apps with the COMING release. There is believed to be a new Office Web Apps Server coming as part of the Office 2013 release.
IMO, if they want to just sell it for $10, I will take two.I thought Office 2013 was already released :/It was. The part about giving up the starter was what I had missed when the story cam out last yer. No more of the trail and maybe buy all. So,  to make up, they had to put something in it to entice you to buy it.
391.

Solve : Reducing the size of an mp3 file?

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Hi,

I have an MP3 music file that I want to use as a ringtone for my cell phone. The only problem is that the file is 3 MB, and my phone rejects the file as being too large. How can I reduce this file by two thirds, and only have the first third left?

Thanks!

-cinque8You can use iTunes to import it, and then burn it to a CD, and then rip it back from the CD as a lesser quality probably lower than 128k for free - the cost of burning a CD. Windows MEDIA Player can also rip it back as low quality in preferences from the CD, but the CD has to be in CD Audio Format, same format as can play in CD players, and not MP3 format or it wont work.

OR

Get a double Male Stereo Phono cable and plug it from headphone jack to microphone jack and set speaker volume to around 40% and play it with windows media player and use a audio RECORDER application to record from microphone jack and save as MP3 of a low sample rate of LESS than 128k.



All other ways of doing it require software that cost MONEY. I am not aware of a free audio editor tool that can do it. I have a few audio editors that can do it but they cost $50 for the cheapest tool that has all sorts of audio editing abilities.

I'd offer to convert it for you with software I have, but transfer of the song to me would look like piracy, and I cant have anything to do with anything illegal. Quote from: DaveLembke on September 03, 2013, 07:30:17 PM

All other ways of doing it require software that cost money. I am not aware of a free audio editor tool that can do it.

Really? There are multiple ways to make free ringtones. VLC Palyer can do that along with a handful of other free media players. This video is not very well planned out but it gives the instructions.

Also. If you have a smart phone then just search your app store for ringtone maker. You can create ringtones out of any music file you have on the phone. I'm not sure about the Samsung Galaxy S4 (Android) I have now but my old Samsung Transform let you make a ringtone out of any music file on the phone. Just long-press the music file and choose 'Make Ringtone'.

Or just turn to the Internet... http://makeownringtone.com

Just drag the green and red arrows to where you want to record the ringtone.
Hey Dave and EvilFantasy, thank you both for your posts!

-cinque8Your welcome.
392.

Solve : Three Cool Things a PC can do.?

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The Author lists 35 things. But I cut the list done to just three things you may have yet to try.
Here is the short list...
...
35. Make cash with live PC support
You may be used to helping people solve their PC problems, so why not use your knowledge to earn a little extra cash? You'll need a WEBSITE with FTP access and MySQL support. Install LiveZilla to add live chat, where site visitors can click a button to open a chat window on your PC.
Then sign up at PayPal, go to the Merchant Services tab and create a 'Buy Now' button with your charges. Integrate this with the LiveZilla button (instructions are here) and people will only be able to chat if they pay first.
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25. Get a premium bonds payout!
There's nothing that helps more to truly change your life than a fat wedge of cash – and it could be out there waiting for you already. Each year millions of pounds of prizes go unclaimed by Premium Bond WINNERS. As there is no time limit on CLAIMING – the prize is held until the winner is tracked down – you won't have missed out if you moved house without updating your Premium bond details.
There are over 400,000 prizes still waiting to be claimed, and the oldest dates back to the first draw in June 1957 – so it's well WORTH checking whether you're one of the lucky ones at www.nsandi.com.
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24. Rearrange your living space
Ever wondered whether your front room would look better with the sofa under the window? Website www.roomfulexpress.icovia.com helps you to make a simple plan of your room and its furniture and then let you experiment with how different rearrangements would work, all without putting your back out.
Room design
Simply drag furniture icons onto your roomplan before resizing and rotating them to match your current living arrangements. Once you've got a plan of your room you can save it, meaning that if you fancy rearranging everything all over again in the future, help is just a login away.
...
Those are the ones I like BEST!
Click her for the Full List.
Methinks Geek has found his tips on a UK site. Premium Bonds are a kind of savings lottery program run by the UK Government. You purchase "bonds" in units of one hundred UK pounds, maximum holding £30,000 for one individual, and one month after purchase they become eligible for a monthly draw, with prizes ranging from 50 pounds to 1 million pounds. The difference from ordinary lotteries is that you are not risking the purchase price of the bonds, only the interest you would have got if you had invested the money in a regular savings account. You can cash them in at any time. Prizes are exempt from UK income tax. Possible drawbacks for non-UK residents are that (1) participation in the Premium Bond program is designed for taxpayers in the United Kingdom. If you live outside the U.K., you will need to draw funds from a U.K. financial institution. (2) You may not apply for bonds online from any country, state or territory where participation in online lotteries is prohibited. Winning is not guaranteed, although people say that if you hold the maximum permitted you stand to get around 2% per year back in small prizes (The prize fund each month is determined by the current interest rates)

393.

Solve : Google's first two TV ads for Motorola X?

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Motorola X is a NEW super smartphone. Should be super. Google is doing TV  ads for the new wonder phone. The ads are dull.
Having trouble going to sleep?
Take a look Scroll down to see the video.

Google's first two TV ads for exciting Moto X: Amazingly dull

394.

Solve : Start a tech biz? -Skip SAilicon Valley. Got Europe.?

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This is from Forbes.
Skip Silicon Valley: Why Smart Startups Start In Europe.

Despite having studied at Stanford University, worked for start-ups in Silicon Valley like Linkexchange and Tellme networks, spent four years at eBay in California in product MANAGEMENT, and been an investor at ACCEL Partners, a venture capital firm with roots in Silicon Valley, I made the conscious decision with my co-founder to build our fashion ecommerce start-up, Boticca.com in London.
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Boticca.com is located in Covent Garden, Central London.
 Avid Larizadeh, Contributor  to Forbes, explains why smart companies no LONGER start in California. They go to Europe, if not Asia.
Here is Her Story in Forbes.
I think she has it right. What do you think?I think she is right. Europe has a lot of advantages and London is a LEADING WORLD city.

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Solve : Truth in marketing. It is 48 bit, not 64 bit.?

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Do you have a 64 bit CPU? Can it really get to any 64 bit address? or does it quit at 48 bits? Take a look at this:
From Wikipedia, 48-bit computing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/48-bit_computing
So there is such a thing? YES!
Then what is 64 bit computing?
Why do 64 bit systems have only a 48 bit address space? (Stack Overflow)
Can we protest? Did we pay for 64 and only get 48? If this is not corrected soon, we could be in real  trouble. For example, the world debt, in dollars and cents, might go beyond the limit of 48 bit integers. Would that present a problem? If not, why not?
Curious minds need to know.





As a Stack Overflow responder said,

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48 bits give you an address space of 256 terabyte. That's a lot. You're not going to see a system which needs more than that any time soon.

So CPU manufacturers TOOK a shortcut. They use an instruction set which allows a full 64-bit address space, but current CPUs just only use the lower 48 bits. The alternative was wasting transistors on handling a bigger address space which wasn't going to be needed for many years.

So once we get near the 48-bit limit, it's just a matter of releasing CPUs that handle the full address space, but it won't require any changes to the instruction set, and it won't break compatibility.

I don't see a problem. I don't think you're being serious. I hope not.
I was. I can think of a specific application where having all 64 lines available could serve a esoteric  device that could attach to  the motherboard. It wound be a memory mapped  video card that can play games only from one software vendor. By using patent and  copyrights one could assert that some address in the high region would 'belong' to a manufacturer. Thus preventing other vendors from making a copy cat cheap imitation that might run the same games.
There is real potential. But... why should CPU manufacturers have wasted money on something that isn't necessary, so some guy in the future's "esoteric" device might work?
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Do you have a 64 bit CPU?
Yes. my Q8200 and T3200 are 64-bit CPUs.

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can it really get to any 64 bit address?
False dichotomy. "64-bit" refers to the Data bus width, not the address bus width.

8-bit 8088 Processor had 20-bits of address bus to address 1MB of RAM. if the 8-bit CPU could only address 8-bits worth of memory, than it would have only been able to use 256 bytes.

16-bit 286 was 16-bit but had a 24-bit address bus allowing it to access 16MB.

386SX was a 32-bit processor but had a 16-bit data bus as well as having only a 21-bit Address bus, meaning it was limited to 16MB of memory, like the 286.

386DX was 32-bit all the way, including the data bus.

The equalization kept up until the Pentium Pro. the 486SX/DX as well as the Pentium and Pentium MMX processors were 32-bit through and through.

The Pentium Pro, however, had a 36-bit address bus. All later processors can address at least 64GB of Memory. Opteron jumped to 40-bit; Itanium jumped to 44-bit. AMD64 eventually settled on 48-bit as a reasonable address bus size.

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Then what is 64 bit computing?

64-bit processors have 64-bit memory bus width, meaning they transfer data from system memory in QWORD sizes; they also transfer data internally at 64-bit, which some having 128-bit internal data buses, and most having processor features that make some of their registers 128-bit. They also have of course 64-bit registers.

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Can we protest? Did we pay for 64 and only get 48?

64-bit doesn't refer to the address bus. That's why "8-bit" processors and "16-bit" processors never have 8 and 16-bit address buses respectively.


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If this is not corrected soon, we could be in real  trouble. For example, the world debt, in dollars and cents, might go beyond the limit of 48 bit integers. Would that present a problem? If not, why not?
Well first off "world debt" doesn't make any sense. Indebted to who? What other worlds are our creditors? But aside from that, 48-bit is limited to 48-trillion or so through integers.

of course, the problem with this supposition is first that what is '48-bit' is only the address bus and is not present as a limitation of the bit-width of elements. 64-bit processors still process a QWORD at a time, and they still DEAL with 64-bit integers and 64-bit data values. their registers are 64-bit in size, not 32-bit. Even if the processors had a 48-bit data bus, that doesn't mean it's impossible to use 96-bit integers. 32-bit processors can process 64-bit integers and operations on 64-bit integers and values, they just need to do it in two 'bites'.







[/quote]Good answer BC.
But if the 8086 was a 24 bit address machine  instead of 20 bit, things would have been very interesting b sack in the DOS days. Hindsight.

Still, I don't see having 16 more address lines would be a waste. It could open the door to new kinds of devices that run from the address lines.

But how big is 48 bit addressing? What if they didn56 bit addressing? Only 8 more little wires. They could shoe it in somewhere.

Video memory:
The idea I gave to Salmon Trout could work. Each graphics maker could have his own direct memory 16GB graphics area in the upper part of the 64 bit array. Each graphics card could be made with very unique Hardware and Proprietary software.
Another, Universal Database:
One could imagine a database that would use the additional address lines to get to external data. All the data in the world could be assigned a place in the 64 bit address space. When you make a query, the address lines  esoteric device would send a message to a massive super internet that could instantly convert the address into a website IPs  and provide the data you requested. Or maybe the address lines would be the actual IP address.

Really, they add extra cores. They could add 16 more wires. Hey! there is an idea! a quad CPU with each having nits own path into the upper  memory area.

Am I the only one who dreams? What would you do with a CPU that can physically reach into a 64 bit space.? Or even 56?
Or, Why do you think 48 bit will always be enough?
I need to know right now! Quote from: Geek-9pm on July 29, 2013, 10:44:13 PM
But if the 8086 was a 24 bit address machine  instead of 20 bit, things would have been very interesting b sack in the DOS days. Hindsight.
it would have been interesting because the XT would have been ridiculously pricy. And it was already up there in terms of cost, given it's advantages over it's 8088 predecessor. (16-bit internal and external data bus, for example)

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Still, I don't see having 16 more address lines would be a waste. It could open the door to new kinds of devices that run from the address lines.
I'm not really sure I understand what you could be referring to by "new kinds of devices". I mean I did see your hypothetical scenario involving "esoteric" devices, but by definition I would imagine esoteric considerations are not predominant when how things are designed, instead they tend to prefer practical considerations. I guess I'll note some responses to that now.

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I can think of a specific application where having all 64 lines available could serve a esoteric  device that could attach to  the motherboard.  It wound be a memory mapped  video card that can play games only from one software vendor.
I'm not sure I see what your point with this scenario is; we already have memory mapped devices. We call them Graphics cards, and they work with pretty much any software. Even so, I'm not really sure how such a device would require the CPU to have a 64-bit address bus.

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But how big is 48 bit addressing? What if they didn56 bit addressing? Only 8 more little wires. They could shoe it in somewhere.
Salmon Trout already ANSWERED the first question. 48-bit Address bus results in 256TB of addressable space. The answer to the second is obvious: there is no reason to. Even your hypothetical scenario doesn't have anything that makes it benefit from 64-bit addressing, and the fact is that current hardware limitations mean it's pretty much impossible to get that much memory installed into a PC anyway. The fact is that if they added anything more than that, it would never get used; the limitation may be met (256TB) at some time in the future, but the fact is that it's impossible to plan for that future by simply widening the address bus, most importantly because that will make them cost more here and now for a feature that may never be used.

Imagine for example- if a current Core 2 Quad had a 64-bit address bus. What benefits would it offer? None whatsoever. No current motherboard can hold more than 256TB of memory, many top out at 16GB and others at 64GB- and even those amounts are exorbinantly priced. When that amount of RAM becomes affordable, the Core 2 Quad is going to be a relic and there won't be motherboards that can use it anymore and support the larger amount of memory, meaning that the extra address bus size is completely pointless and never get's used, meaning the only difference is it cost more to manufacture and it cost more to buy.

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The idea I gave to Salmon Trout could work. Each graphics maker could have his own direct memory 16GB graphics area in the upper part of the 64 bit array. Each graphics card could be made with very unique Hardware and Proprietary software.
The idea you gave didn't make any sense to me. Current Graphics cards already DO map IO/Addresses into the virtual address space- it's how the driver communicates with it. it seems like you are suggesting that Video Memory (Graphics RAM) be directly mapped into the virtual address space as well. This has a few issues, first of all being that Graphics Memory can sometimes be write only or read operations can be a lot slower; not to mention that every single access to that mapped address will basically have to marshal across the Motherboard bus; currently as  I understand it the Graphics Driver marshals data to the video card by storing blocks of data into memory, telling the graphics adapter where it is, and the graphics adapter slurps it across the bus through DMA or some other fancy bus switching thing that happens practically asynchronously. I see no benefit to your hypothetical scenario.

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Another, Universal Database:
One could imagine a database that would use the additional address lines to get to external data. All the data in the world could be assigned a place in the 64 bit address space. When you make a query, the address lines  esoteric device would send a message to a massive super internet that could instantly convert the address into a website IPs  and provide the data you requested. Or maybe the address lines would be the actual IP address.
This has absolutely nothing to do with an Address bus at all.

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Really, they add extra cores. They could add 16 more wires. Hey! there is an idea! a quad CPU with each having nits own path into the upper  memory area.
The difference between adding extra CPU Cores and adding extra Address Lines is that the CPU Cores will actually get used and utilized. the Address Lines never will. Most motherboards max out long before they reach anywhere close to 256TB. I know MINE maxes out at 16GB, which means that even the 48-bit address bus it has won't ever be entirely used; and by the time we have motherboards approaching anywhere near that limit, the CPU and socket it uses will be relegated to history.

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What would you do with a CPU that can physically reach into a 64 bit space.? Or even 56?
Nothing useful because no motherboard supports anywhere near enough memory to make it useful. Even 48-bit is a bit of overkill at this point, but it was probably easier to do it that way.
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Or, Why do you think 48 bit will always be enough?
Why do you think anybody suggested it would always be enough?
I need to know right now!
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Solve : A Cellphone Accessory forom Toyota??

Answer» http://www.enterprisemobilehub.com/blogs/skovsky/toyotas-smart-insect-concept-car-it-car

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Solve : SMS messages unsecure??

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my understanding is that SMS text messages are supposed to be unsecure because many copies are left on servers and the phone.
what I WANT to know is can they also be read by hackers and the nsa or government?
What about SECURE messaging like tigertext or secure text?
Most of these like tigertext have an auto-delete feature but does that make them secure?My rule of THUMB is the Gov't. has access to ANYTHING they want...no matter what measures you may take...
So if you are concerned about it just exercise basic COMMON sense when online.
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Solve : THANK YOU!?

Answer» WOW! I received an EMAIL. Thank you for the birthday wishes!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY also to Aviator19, Bokononist, shaheen! Cheers GUYS!

 

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Solve : And randomly...I'm back?

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I dunno if any of you happen to remember me, I doubt it ><

All I know was that I thought I was the awesomest computer person to ever exist or SOMETHING, and then I came here and I realized I KNEW NOTHING. XD At any rate, here I am again, with a little bit more knowledge than last time. I dunno how LONG I'm staying around but you know, whatever ><WELCOME back.

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Solve : Smartphones make Top Health Tech Hazards?

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This s a collection of stories from last year. So it is not current News, but you should want to follow the links and see what the fuss was.
(I have not used the quote thing. It is ugly.) t It should be obvious these are quotes.

Smartphones make Top Health Tech Hazards

Battery Case for Smartphone Recalled Due to Fire Hazard
The CPSC and Health Canada recently announced a voluntary recall of smartphone battery case due to an overheating risk when charging, posing a fire threat.
http://www.strquality.com/en-us/newsevents/Pages/Smartphone-Recall-Battery-Case.aspx

Lithium-Ion Battery Hazards
Oct. 7, 2012 R. Thomas Long, P.E., Michael Kahn, Ph. D., and Celina Mikolajczak, P.E.
http://magazine.sfpe.org/content/lithium-ion-battery-hazards

The Fire Protection Research Foundation (FPRF) completed an assessment of the hazards associated with Li-ion batteries related to storage of Li-ion batteries and fire protection; this article provides a brief overview of this work to-date.1 Before the global fire safety challenges associated with Li-ion batteries can be addressed, an understanding of Li-ion technology is useful ...

From an individual case:

 like to post an instance that occurred since back in March. On a Sunday morning, I plugged in the micro USB to a Nokia E7-00 I got since Oct. 2011 to start my ROUTINE e-mail checking. About 2minutes later when I touch the micro USB plu on the phone, it was boiling hot! Facing this abnormal temperature, I immediately unplug the mciro USB from the phone. Guess what! The micro USB cable socket and the socket on the phone start to burn! Inexperienced with such an emergency situation, I put out the fire with my own finger! (So, hospital I went, of course! Yet, the pain caused by the burn discouraged me from using any keyboard for 2 weeks!)

What happen next is the painful PROCEDURE dealing with the phone maker:
NoKIA. (by the way, sounds like: (NoCare))
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056726049

For more, search : Smart Phone Hazards

This is recent and you have to read it.:
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/business/technology/130326/dirty-smartphones-ted-smith-toxins-gadgetsI heard cars are pretty dangerous too. Quote from: Carbon Dudeoxide on April 11, 2013, 08:11:56 PM

I heard cars are pretty dangerous too.
They regulate cars.
I used to live in Silicon Valley and I understand the issues there. San Jose is a beautiful plane to live. Sad to say, the water quality was compromised by the electronics industry.  The industry has been poorly regulated as to hazardous materials. Making Cell phones or  iPads is more that just Lithium Icon. A whole litter of metals are needed just to make a cute little gadget.

The problem still is with us. To date that are no statics as to how many people have been killed by a cell phones.  But the mining industry, world wide, continues to harm people. California now has laws to reduce the problem here, but globally people are being hurt with the cell phone industry.

Peale read the last link in my post above. Thank you.
Geek this is absolutely terrible news...especially given the fact you stated that phones are replacing PC's...

Now what on Earth do we do ? ? Quote from: patio on April 12, 2013, 06:37:15 AM
Geek this is absolutely terrible news...especially given the fact you stated that phones are replacing PC's...
Now what on Earth do we do ? ?
I do'no. Shall we live in caves? The more I got into this, the worst it gets.

Ted Smith is well-known as an environmentalist. His main target was the Santa CLARA Valley. Here is a blurb about him:
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Ted Smith , Silicon Valley Toxics Coalition
Founder
Silicon Valley Toxics Coalition
Purpose Prize Fellow 2006
Improving the environmental health and safety practices of the global electronics industry
Silicon Valley may be ground zero for innovation, but it was also a potential environmental disaster area in 1982 when Ted Smith founded the Silicon Valley Toxics Coalition in response to the public health threat created by hazardous groundwater contamination from high-tech manufacturing facilities in San Jose.

After organizing the community to clean up the groundwater contamination, the Coalition pressured computer and electronics manufacturers to make more environmentally friendly choices and use cleaner production methods. Hewlett Packard and Dell Computers led the industry in actively promoting the Coalition's Computer TakeBack Campaign, which Smith started in 1997 to get computer companies to recycle obsolete computers appropriately.
In other words, this guy is  for real.
Now Santa Clara, Sunnyvale, Cupertino  and San Jose are better places to live.  But in other parts of the world it is still very bad.
This is too dressing. I want to stop here. Don't ask me about POPs.
What about POP's ? ?You should not ask. POP is almost an alternative 'end of the world as we kn OW sit.'
a POIP is a Persistent Organic Pollutant. At one  time the UN list the 'dirty doze' as:

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The "Dirty Dozen"
aldrin ¹
chlordane ¹
dichlorodiphenyl trichloroethane (DDT)¹
dieldrin¹
endrin¹
heptachlor¹
hexachlorobenzene ¹,²
mirex¹
toxaphene¹
polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs) ¹,²
polychlorinated dibenzo-p-dioxins²(dioxins)
polychlorinated dibenzofurans² (furans)
1-Intentionally Produced.
2-Unintentionally Produced - Result from some industrial processes and combustion.
For more information, see table below.
http://www.epa.gov/international/toxics/pop.html
A number of these comes from the electronic industry. The way cell phones sales are going world-wide, fabrication of cell phones will become the main source of POPs.  Yes, they are controlled in North America and Europe., but most of the world is still far behind in controlling careless POP disposal. Chine is, arguable, the worst with the rest of SE Asia close in second place.

Notice PCB. Widely used, Polychlorinated Biphenyls  are  important material in electrical and electronic equipment. The possibility of getting everybody to stop using this chemical group is very small.

Many POPs are a paradox. They SEEM to be stable, yet that can become volatile and spread  around. And then can concentrate in one place.
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Persistent organic pollutants (POPs) are organic compounds that are resistant to environmental degradation through chemical, biological, and photolytic processes.[1] Because of this, they have been observed to persist in the environment, to be capable of long-range transport, bioaccumulate in human and animal tissue, biomagnify in food chains,[1] and to have potential significant impacts on human health and the environment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistent_organic_pollutant

I confess that most of my study has been in electronics and I had not idea how much impact minerals and chemical compounds have non the environment.

Shall I stop? Do you want to ask me about Gold? Yes Gold, that wonderful stuff they use when you need to crown a tooth. No, it is not a POP.  It is safe.  For you an me. But not everybody.

Go ahead, ask me about Gold!  It will ruin your day!
What about Gold ? ? ? Quote from: patio on April 12, 2013, 08:45:38 PM
But the mining industry, world wide, continues to harm people.

Everybody is all about people... but won't somebody please think about the canaries?Gold is very important in the fabrication of smartphones as well s loather electronic devices. Very small amounts of gold are needed. But you just don't go to Fort Knox and say "May I have a cup of gold? I need to build 10,000 cell phones this month."

In Africa and South America third world poor people prefer to work in gold mining rather than  stay on the farm. It pays better. And they risk their health to make more money.

A common practice is use of mercury  to recover gold from ore. If done in  a  proper  facility, it works great. But in the third-world the idea of a closed system recovery is not popular.  Instead, they release  the mercury vapor into the air.

Mercury vapor in the air is bad for people and birds.

The canaries?
Yes, it kills them too.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/science/study-finds-mercury-in-more-northeastern-bird-species.html?_r=0What about rare earth minerals ? ?
Why are my flourescent light bulbs so expensive now ? ? Quote from: patio on April 13, 2013, 02:09:44 PM
What about rare earth minerals ? ?
Why are my flourescent light bulbs so expensive now ? ?

It's indirectly related to the Feline's attempts to take over the worlds grain supply.Yes, that's a good point. the so-called rare earth minerals are elements that are hard to find. Actually, they are not really hard to find. Most of the current production comes from China. Reportedly 92% of rare earth minerals come from China. the mining of these minerals does not have a great impact on the environment of the rest of the world. However, the impact of this type of mining is a serious issue for China.
This post was about smart phones and cell phones because they are now becoming the number one item in all the earth. There are about as many smart phones or cell phones out there as the world's population. This means that there are people that do not have lights in the house but they do have a cell phone.
My guess is that the problems the Chinese have will translate into higher prices for products used in the rest of the world. And that includes computers, nuclear power plants, and hybrid cars.
About your light bulbs. Yes, they are terribly expensive. They're supposed to last five years, ha ha, big joke. And where do you dispose of them? And by the way, ordinary old-fashioned light bulbs are made of tungsten. Yet another rare earth.
So do I have a solution to this problem? I have some thoughts about that, but maybe I just won't say anything right now. Still, I love my iPhone and do not intend to give it up. And my laptop computer. And my desktop. And my fluorescent light. 

Here is a link that has a fair discussion about rare earth minerals.
http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/translating-uncle-sam/stories/what-are-rare-earth-metals

OK, here  is my plan. Take away all the stuff from everybody. Except for me and a few of my friends. Problem  solved.