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8151.

Solve : A crash FYI?

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No idea if this will be of use but posting anyways - just in case it might help someone else.

Late afternoon today - attempted to 'wake up' my internal CARD reader - now and again it is not showing in explorer and usually a disconnect of USB cable and re connect encourages WIN to ''see'' it - and the four ''DRIVES''.

This time - BSOD!!!!  Horrors ... and a message saying approx ..... "Parity error/memory - consult your hardware vendor"  Yikes!!!

Shut off - powered off totally - let rest then try again - monitors blank with no signal and CPU fan goes to high speed - and that's it!  Zilch.  Repeat - same.  Sinking feeling in belly!

I could get a recovery CD to read and booted with that but did not feel like any major attempts at that stage to try any rescue in case matters went worse.

Spent a while updating data on spare machine with external drive, ready to have to switch work to that one.  Just one idea to try with main machine - let's check mem sticks - long shot.

Removed both 1Gb sticks - swapped them - so #1 stick became #2 and VICE versa - refitted with care for full seating ........ and heavens be praised after powering up again - booted!!  Quick spell in safe mode - all looked OK - then boot normal to usual win ... success.

So - message here might be that suggestions made in posts in past about removal and reseating of boards, mem etc - can just help.  In my case I suspect (maybe) the mem stick reversal somehow achieved a reinitialization effect ...... main thing is - back up and running - right now anyways.

Any ideas from anyone else would be interesting if any actual explanation.

8152.

Solve : Internet Explorer error message.?

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How do I stop the Microsoft message from appearing when an I/E ERROR has occurred and I am asked to I  "send"  a REPORT or  "do not send"? I didn't know you could do that.  I thought you just had to hit one of them and not WORRY about it.  Try this...

Start>Control Panel>SYSTEM>Advanced>Error Reporting>DisableThank You..................WesthallYou are most welcome.....I assume it worked for you.Yes.

8153.

Solve : "Send to" prompt issue.?

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When I right-click a file, document, etc. the only choice I have is the DVD DRIVE and the flash card when it is inserted, that's it.What flavor of Windows ? ?

You now have 3 different TOPICS going all with one sentence questions and no INFO on ANYTHING about your machine Windows ver. etc.

Keep in mind we can't see your machine from here except on really clear days.Windows XP,  Home Edition,  Version 2002,  Service Pack 3,  Dell Dimension DE051.

8154.

Solve : How to get "new wave file" back when I right-clic?! [solved]?

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Hello, I often create EMPTY wav file by using the "right-clic, new, wave file" function on the desktop, but recently, the wav file option has disappeared from the LIST (I can STILL create .txt, .ZIP etc...) How can I get it back?

Thanks.

D.SI'm not sure if this option comes standard with WINDOWS but I can't be certain, it sounds like a shell extension installed by another program. If you uninstalled any programs before it disappeared then try re-installing them.
I suppose, in theory, it could also be caused by something you have recently installed that caused some sort of shell extension conflict causing neither to show properly but I know nothing when it comes to these things.the new submenu, at LEAST for sound files, is not a shell extension at all.

if your running XP try this registry script.

it restores the "shellNew" key to the wavfile entry in the registry.

Code: [Select]Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.wav\ShellNew]
"FileName"="sndrec.wav"
Thanks.. but it doesn't work for me... Another idea anyone?

D.STweakUI 

Use it myself.

Just Download it, and goto the "Templates" Tab on the window and you can add/remove file types to the list when you right-click This solved my problem! Thanks!! In the end, I think it all came down to some file association problem...

8155.

Solve : Help me to restore to xp?

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Hi, I bought a Dell Dimention 4500 preinstalled w/ WinXP Home, then I had it downgraded to Win2000 Chinese versiion. Now I'd llike to go back to XP Home. I have the Reinstall CD, and I have all my Data files backuped. I'd like to reformat the hard drive to clean it and get RIT of all the junk stuff.
How should I do and what eles I need beside of the reinstall CD from Dell.
I have some experience of INSTALLING software. Don't know how to reformat a hard disk.
Will be appreciated very much if any one can teach me how to do step by step.
I'm always willing to learn though I am a bit aged. Please forgive me if I don't get it right away. Quote from: Aged_Learner on April 14, 2009, 07:59:38 PM

Hi, I bought a Dell Dimention 4500 preinstalled w/ WinXP Home, then I had it downgraded to Win2000 Chinese versiion. Now I'd llike to go back to XP Home. I have the Reinstall CD, and I have all my Data files backuped. I'd like to reformat the hard drive to clean it and get rit of all the junk stuff.
How should I do and what eles I need beside of the reinstall CD from Dell.
I have some experience of installing software. Don't know how to reformat a hard disk.
Will be appreciated very much if any one can teach me how to do step by step.
I'm always willing to learn though I am a bit aged. Please forgive me if I don't get it right away.
There are a few options you can choose from, booting from the XP disk, or starting normally from Win2k.

I haven't installed XP, but usually when you INSTALL it, you can flush your system beforehand.Thanks!
I booted up from the XP reinstallation CD and formating the Hard Drive now, It'll take a while, and it's time to go to bet for me now. Good Night! Quote from: Aged_Learner on April 14, 2009, 09:14:21 PM
Thanks!
I booted up from the XP reinstallation CD and formating the Hard Drive now, It'll take a while, and it's time to go to bet for me now. Good Night!
Tell US if you run into any more problems!

Thanks for coming!
8156.

Solve : Hello! any operatin system experts can help ? " Memory placement "?

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hello all

i am a newbie as u can see i was searching for a good forum to post my question and i found this , i hope i can find the ANSWER here.

well, i am taking an Operating system class at the university, and we have a task about the Memory placement!

what is required that we should make Four DIFFERENT Scenarios for the memory placement strategies! :

" first fit "
" next fit "
" best fit"
" worst fit"

each scenario contain of four different Requests, and four Holes to place that requests.

BUT , each scenario must only WORK for that method!

ex) first fit scenario will work only on first fit and any other strategy will fail to place the requests on it!

i hope i explained about what i am straggling around here been trying so long and its just not working with me
MOSS t of us do not do memory management, it is don by the operating system. Some types of operations work best when the memory is contiguous.  That is, all the memory needed by a task is all in one area with no 'holes'.

For help with the problems given, you need to consult you text box to understand what the issues are.

" first fit "
" next fit "
" best fit"
" worst fit"

Have to be understood in the context of the book  you are working with.

Some technology in use today resolves the issue at the hardware LEVEL, so it becomes a pointless exercise to study this, expect it helps you learn how to study. Which may be the real objective of the course.Actually this sounds more like a logic puzzle than a hardware question...

You have 2    5 gallon containers.
You need to measure out 3 Gallons of water.

How do you do it ? ?Lol patio

8157.

Solve : status.msi?

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Just recently I have had Windows Installer pop up on the screen trying to install a product called Status. Then I get a message saying the following:

An installation package for the product 'Status' cannot be found. Try the installation again USING a valid copy of the installation package 'status.msi.

Can anyone TELL me what this is about? Thanks.status.msi is a HP Printer program.  for what ever happened it's recommended to put the HP printer CD back in the Drive and direct the load from there.  Once this is done it should fix the pop up.

Well delete all that crap.....it is unknow where this bugger came from.....the only way i found to get rid of it is by opening regedit and clicking on edit and find and then type in the whole string being displayed in the install PROMPT.  Once it finds the string.  delete the key.  then OPEN internet explorer and search on any search engine gdiplus.dll  .   Once you find the site you can download it for free if you read it closely and then install it to C:\Windows\system32\ and do a full shutdown and then power back up.  The prompts should not start on boot.  I haven't seen it try it again SINCE doing that.   Good luck mate.

8158.

Solve : Need help setting up first computer?

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I just built my first computer, and when I tried to install the OS it gets stuck. I am installing XP. When I turn on my computer it makes a continuous sound, that is very annoying. The first time I tried installing XP it looked like it was GOING to work, than it gave me some message that the hard drive was bad or there was a VIRUS. So I reset the computer and tried again, now all I get is "verifying DMI pool data" and it wont move pass that. I read the post about DMI and it talked about BIOS setings being correct. I have no idea if my settings are correct. How do I know? Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, and if this is a stupid question. But I am very new to all this. I know home theater not computers. Try a simple diagnostic tool. Boot a CD or floppy that has some basic diagnostics. Run a memory test for half an hour. If the memory is heat sensitive, it will so up before half an hour.  Where would I get these tests?Open up the computer and make sure all CONNECTORS and add on cards are seated properly.  That means straight/level/flat in the sockets.  Especially the ram chip(s).

Restart the computer and press the Delete key on the keyboard for about 10 seconds.  The bios screen should appear.  Now look for a setting in the bios menu that says something like Optimized Settings, usually on right side of the menu.  Select one of them if there is more than one you may WANT to try all of them.  This will basically scale the system back to minimal factory settings and then save and reboot.

If it still makes that nagging noise, there are several possiblilies.  Bad RAM, Bad Video, or heat sink isn't making good contact on the CPU.  Baring those, I would take out any add on cards and disconnect all drives.  Get the motherboard, ram, video working and then add on one item at a time.  The one that makes the nagging sound is your problem device.You will need a working PC to download and burn the CD ISO

http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

Once yu have a working CD, try it first on the good machine, then see if your new machine will pass the memory test.

8159.

Solve : missing clock?

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i m using xp pro. with multi user. my system tray CLOCK is missing. In start menu , the OPTION for this also is deactivated. How to restore clock in system tray. for other user it is working fine.Right clik any tray item and select Properties and uncheck Hide inactive icons...it is not working.
i think it is a registry issue,but how to solve it.........don't know.....Right click the Taskbar, select Properties, Taskbar tab, Notification area, tick the "Show the Clock" box.

thanx.
 but the option is ALREADY in deactivated condition.
What do you mean - deactivated? Quote from: Dusty on April 13, 2009, 04:30:07 PM

What do you mean - deactivated?
Is it greyish, and you can't re-activate it?sorry for late!helpmeh.
yes it is greyish & i can't reactivate it.Try this:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
Line 134 - right panethanks Broni it works! Cool Kelli's ROCKS !Raining today Broni ? ? or can i play ? ?BEAUTIFULLY sunny here, but windy. You'd need double weight golf ball If it's behind me...i got no problem with that...
8160.

Solve : Computer wont load up?

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Hi my laptop has stopped working. I don't mind so much but there are some music files and word files i would quite like. Basicly it goes as far as the windows black loading screen with the logo etc but then just does that and goes no further.
Can anyone help?

Thanks!Your drive may be damaged. If you are COMPUTER hardware savy you can buy a external 2.5" hard drive case and mount your laptops hard drive into that and then be able access your DATA through USB communications to SATA or IDE depending on the type of hard drive your laptop has. Be sure that the system this device is to be plugged into has the latest antivirus to avoid spreading if it is viral.

Other than that you can try the windows repair utility that is on the OEM CD that may have come with the laptop and perform a repair or restore ( without formatting ) which would rebuild Windows, but not touch your music etc.

Also HEARD of people using Knoppix Linux Live CD to access data, but if you dont know Linux, then the first 2 ideas are better for you as for to get NTFS support is quite fun and manual.From a dead power up; start pressing the F8 key.  This should bring up a Boot Choice Menu.  Select Safe Mode and enter.  If it boots to a warning click on okay and let it boot all the way to the desktop.  You should have Safe Mode in all 4 corners of the screen.  Click Start Shutdown POWER OFF.  Try booting again.  If it crashes during the second boot.  Try the option on the menu that says last know good configuration.

Guessing, it could be a driver or perhaps the memory chip has been dislodged.  My experience is its a driver issue.

8161.

Solve : Bye Bye Laptop????

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I have a Dell Inspiron 5100, it died some time ago, and i replaced it, however I would like to get it running again for my son.  This is whats going on and what I have done to try and repair it.

Turn it on, you can hear it working, but nothing at all on the screen, no visual at all.  Can not get bios, nothing.

Thought ok, screen has gone.  No, plugged into second monitor, pressing "FN" and "F8" (to switch to second monitor source" nothing on either screen. - interesting.

Did Dell online diagnostic, comes up with beep codes 1 4 6.  This means HDD has previous errors.  My thing is I dont want to replace the hdd, then find, way more other things that have gone bung.  Not unless this all makes sense, that the hdd being faulty would loose the screen too.  I DIDNT think so, as bios should still be accessable, well I think so anyway.  on the subejct of hdd, happy to replace it, however my experience is with desktops, i have not seen this type of drive, it is a segate momentos,k but it has a weird tab thing at the bottom. - kinda looks like ide built into the bottom of the drive.....  I will go buy one, but any idea what the "type" of drive this is.  Also would want to upgrade froma 40gb to max, cant find the info for that anywhere, max ram is 1gb, found that but not hdd.  Is it limitless?  I didnt think so?

I have taken ram out and back in, as suggested on other forum, and taken battery out and in etc.  all the simple stuff.  Needless to say, no change.

I have checked the ribbon cable for the screen, all looks fine to me, no creases etc.

Runs Xp Home, if i remember right, cannot find any discs on it at all - so that just compounds my problems.....

Appreciate your time, thanks for reading my leangthly post, hey I am a chic - you didnt expect short and sweet did ya! 


Quote from: Meredith9053 on April 14, 2009, 06:11:32 PM
it died some time ago,
When you say that, what do you mean?
Thanks for reading my not-lengthy post lol...Sorry.  It presented with the current problem, and i put it in the cupboard because I was saulking...... lol.  just turned it on one day and, black screen , no response.

I did a bit more looking at the beep codes, i think i was wrong.

my beeps were 1 4 and 6 short beeps.  see below for tech support on beeps.

1 Short beep - System is operating normally.
1 Long beep - Memory refresh CIRCUITRY has failed which indicates a problem with the motherboard. Try reseating the memory DIMM or SIMM modules. Make sure if you have added memory that it is rated at the correct speed for the system.
1 Long 2 Short beeps - The video adapter has failed, or the video memory is having a read/write failure. Try reseating the video card. If the video card is a PCI video card, try moving it to another slot.
1 Long 3 Short beeps - The system does not detect a monitor. Verify that the monitor cable is properly attached to the video card or the onboard video and to the monitor (if the monitor has a detachable cable). If possible, try another monitor on the system to verify that the video adapter is operating properly.
2 or 3 beeps - There is a problem with the system’s memory. Reseat the memory DIMM or SIMM modules.
4 beeps - This indicates a non-functional timer. This indicates a problem with the motherboard.
5 beeps - This indicates a CPU (Central Processing Unit or processor) failure. Try reseating the processor.
6 beeps - This indicates a keyboard controller failure. Try reseating the keyboard connector.
7 beeps - Another INDICATION of a processor problem. Reseat the processor.
8 beeps - This indicates a video memory read/write failure. Reseat the video card (if any) and memory DIMM or SIMM modules.
9 or 10 beeps - This indicates a ROM (Read-Only Memory) checksum error or shutdown register failure. This indicates a defective BIOS chip(s). Reseat the BIOS chips.
11 beeps - Indicates an error in the cache memory. If the system has a Pentium class processor, reseat the processor. If the system has a cache memory module, try reseating it. These beep codes will vary depending on the system. Quote from: Meredith9053 on April 14, 2009, 07:11:05 PM
Sorry.  It presented with the current problem, and i put it in the cupboard because I was saulking...... lol.  just turned it on one day and, black screen , no response.

I did a bit more looking at the beep codes, i think i was wrong.

my beeps were 1 4 and 6 short beeps.  see below for tech support on beeps.

1 Short beep - System is operating normally.
1 Long beep - Memory refresh circuitry has failed which indicates a problem with the motherboard. Try reseating the memory DIMM or SIMM modules. Make sure if you have added memory that it is rated at the correct speed for the system.
1 Long 2 Short beeps - The video adapter has failed, or the video memory is having a read/write failure. Try reseating the video card. If the video card is a PCI video card, try moving it to another slot.
1 Long 3 Short beeps - The system does not detect a monitor. Verify that the monitor cable is properly attached to the video card or the onboard video and to the monitor (if the monitor has a detachable cable). If possible, try another monitor on the system to verify that the video adapter is operating properly.
2 or 3 beeps - There is a problem with the system’s memory. Reseat the memory DIMM or SIMM modules.
4 beeps - This indicates a non-functional timer. This indicates a problem with the motherboard.
5 beeps - This indicates a CPU (Central Processing Unit or processor) failure. Try reseating the processor.
6 beeps - This indicates a keyboard controller failure. Try reseating the keyboard connector.
7 beeps - Another indication of a processor problem. Reseat the processor.
8 beeps - This indicates a video memory read/write failure. Reseat the video card (if any) and memory DIMM or SIMM modules.
9 or 10 beeps - This indicates a ROM (Read-Only Memory) checksum error or shutdown register failure. This indicates a defective BIOS chip(s). Reseat the BIOS chips.
11 beeps - Indicates an error in the cache memory. If the system has a Pentium class processor, reseat the processor. If the system has a cache memory module, try reseating it. These beep codes will vary depending on the system.
So, you have a problem with your motherboard and keyboard controller. Please go to the hardware section (found here) for more help on your problem.thanks for you help, but the http dosnt work.... can i grab the address from you.  thanks. Quote from: Meredith9053 on April 14, 2009, 07:19:25 PM
thanks for you help, but the http dosnt work.... can i grab the address from you.  thanks.
Sorry, that was my fault. Try the link again.still the same sorry! not getting the page to load. Quote from: Meredith9053 on April 14, 2009, 07:32:59 PM
still the same sorry! not getting the page to load.
That was SMF's fault...it AUTOMATICALLY parses links...anyway, the link should work NOW...lol; whooo hooo as homer would say.  got it.  thanks i will research a bit more.
8162.

Solve : uninstalling IE7 and reinstalling question?

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My IE7 isn't operating correctly and giving me fits,if I uninstall it and reinstall it,what will I LOOSE?IE7 isn't resonding when I click on IE and have to go to list mamager to get out of anything,then go to Opera to get on comp.I have a Dell DESKTOP with Windows XP Home edition.just install the latest ie8

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/Internet-explorer/default.aspx   Most I've talked to  SAY the IE8 is a big problem,so I'm sorta in doubt about downloading it.IE8 has issues that are as confounding as what your are experiencing now. Wait awhile until all the bugs are weeded out.
For some it works great, for others it's a nightmare.

Have a look at this http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318378Thankyou very much for your help,and will go TRY restting IE before I try anything else.Your info on my problem has been very helpful.You are most welcome......Good Luck.

8163.

Solve : Re-installing Win XP from an "upgrade" disc?

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I am running Win XP on an IBM NetVista and I want to re-install the Win XP onto a new hard drive that I installed. I have the Win XP key that is on a label on the computer case. Can I use an "upgrade" version of Win XP to do this and also, can I use the same "upgrade" disc on other computers after I have re-formatted their hard drives. I assume that this is not illegal, since all computers have a valid purchased Win XP license.nothing illegal if they all have licenses, but the "upgrade" CD will require WINDOWS 95 or 98 to be installed.Not neccessarily installed....
At the prompt you can simply insert a qualified CD of an earlier version...ahh, yes that's true.


Not sure if it would work with windows 3.1 to XP.Yep.
Just insert floppy #4....then at the 2nd prompt it asks for floppy #2...
               Thank you both for the response. I am just TRYING to re-install the Win XP that I am currently running but I do not have the original system discs. The system is running poorly and I want to re-format and re-install the Win XP. I was HOPING to do this with an "upgrade" disc since the machine is already licensed. If the "upgrade" disc won't work, is there some other way short of buying the full-on version?All you need to do the upgrade install is a previous version of Windows.....
Do you not have one ? ?I do not have it on a disc, just the Win XP that came installed on the computer when I bought it.What happened to the old hard drive?
Is it in working CONDITION with XP on it?
If so, you can CLONE old drive to the new one.
Win XP is still running on the old drive but after 4 years its corrupted (runs slow, crashes, etc.) If I clone it will the new drive pick up all the problems? If not, how would I clone it?Did the new drive come with any CD?
If not, you should be able to download cloning program from the manufacturer site.

8164.

Solve : My Computer Seems to be Worn Out, but is it Really??

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Instead of these three steps, I would recommend following the CH guide found here, and then posting the logs for a malware specialist. Chances are with their help you can get your PC back in tip-top shape without a reinstall.

I just do not understand and can not readily accept that a virus that Malwarebytes (and disabling an obscure, apparently unneeded "hidden device") seemingly removed can still be around after 50 days of roughly normal use. Just so you know, this was a massive, classic virus, including a Google search hijack and a list of addresses that you could not browse to, consisting of, you guessed it, all of the popular security sites. But those symptoms have not reappeared in the last 50 days of relatively good operating, and nor have they reappeared in the present as my operating system has all but shut down.

Yet now the Malwarebytes has detected two more files showing infection from the same virus, 50 days after it supposedly got them all. Meanwhile, the Avira antivirus program has totally struck out on this, never detecting anything either 50 days ago or now, which, considering this virus is at least 6 months old according to what I saw on a forum, is either really embarrassing for Avira or yet more evidence that you are not going to win the war against viruses in the long run.

There seems to be an awkward disagreement among computer users about whether it is more productinve and efficient to actively fight viruses or to simply do complete recoveries on a regular basis. I as a newbie have had an open mind on the subject, but now I think I am ready to decide in favor of the regular recoveries. I have a substantial amount of evidence that antivirus programs fail on a regular basis to detect viruses, that they fail to completely remove viruses, and that even if they seemingly remove them they somehow come back anyway. To me, fighting viruses in the trenches just seems to be unproductive and inefficient compared with learning how to do "destructive" recoveries in a way that minimizes the disruption to your computer work.

And then you have the spontaneously developed operating system errors which grow and grow over time and become more and more annoying. If you could get used to doing recoveries with minimal disruption, you could actually make a case that regularly scheduled recoveries would be nice to do even if viruses did not exist, nice to do in other words just to clear up the errors

A destructive recovery takes about an hour and it is supposed to zap out of existence virtually all viruses, and to correct all system errors, and that is music to my ears at this point. I think am going to learn to live with the disadvantages of these recoveries once and for all, so I can get the big advantages.

Therefore, my policy as of now and going forward will be to plan on recoveries every 10,000 hours of computer use, EARLIER in the event of a severe virus infestation that is not quickly and permanently cleaned up. Also, it would be earlier than 10,000 hours if system errors due to spontaneous actions and due to any viruses have been substantially worse than they were at the 10,000 hour point for my current computer. (How the experience with my current computer went will be considered a baseline for these evaluations. My experience with the old computer was a joke, laugh out loud.)

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A Windows XP System Restore would essentially undo all the changes you made- including uninstalling programs and the malware scans- really it should be a first stop measure to perform when you still have checkpoints (saved system states) from before infections/problems, now, the location the checkpoints are stored is significant to answering number 5:

Well although the January 31 virus apparently destroyed all System Restore points prior to that date, I checked and I still have all FEBRUARY and March restore points available. If I choose any from before my OS stopped working, I could theoretically solve the immediate problem. But again, the whole OS thing just seems to be a game where no matter how many battles you win, you lose the war so, at this point I am preparing to do a recovery, and if I do attempt a restore before a recovery, it will be out of curiosity, and it will probably be at most just a temporary fix and mean just a temporary postponement of the recovery.

Thanks for that very good introduction to manual removal of viruses, especially since it calms me down a little about the seeming failure of antivirus programs: I can see what they are up against, a lot of stunts and tricks that unfortunately, the low-level programmers can think of. We did mention and emphasize how they are at the bottom of the barrell, didn't we?

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How does one go about cleaning a winlogon notify infection? Unfortunately, barring the use of popular anti-malware applications (which generally work), one would need to drop to the Windows Recovery console via the use of the retail Windows CD, whereby they can delete the infectious files all at once, reboot, and delete the keys. Problem solved.

IMPORTANT QUESTION;
Can I deduce from this that if you have a retail Windows CD you can remove viruses from your computer that any number of antivirus programs have failed at removing?

ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION:
If you buy a Windows OS retail CD, how many computers can you use it in??

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Your older one as you say may provide some clues as to a possible method of recovery- for example wether it tries to, but fails to load windows, wether a safe-mode boot might work, or wether the bootup files are completely hooped (which, come to think of it might be remedied by using the appropriate boot-up files from your newer PC, which you will have fixed up before digging into the old one. Of course this is all speculation since we have yet to determine exactly what the issue your old computer is having is.

I forgot to define the acronym- "POST" stands for "Power-On Self-Test", almost all computers back to the original PC take a quick peek at their organs as they start-up, make sure they don't have any issues, check the RAM and so forth to ensure that their parts are working at a glance, and then it proceeds to read special portions of the hard disk, which loads up the OS loader, which loads up the OS and so forth)

If the message you get is something to the tune of something missing or "disk failure" or something, it might just be a CMOS setup boot order issue, likely exacerbated by the long time of disuse. the BIOS options are accessible during the POST as indicated by a line of text such as "press <DEL> to enter setup" or "press <F2> for advanced recovery options", and so forth. Within these menus you can usually find a good number of options, some of which concern the order of which the computer will inspect its drives to look for bootable devices, in much the same way as you'd define an order to find clothes to put on in the morning if you had a number of dressers.


If the BIOS is game and knows whats going on then (again, assuming no physical issues with the HD, in which case you can of course replace it), you can use either the System recovery Disc or a retail Windows CD. Personally I prefer the windows CD method, since in most instances you can boot up from the CD and select a "repair" option, which usually fixes file corruption (it won't remove viruses, but that would require booting up first ). Really you do have more then two options- a system recovery disk for that PC would be a surefire cure, but it's always best to explore non-data losing options first

Thanks especially much for this extremely valuable information regarding the old computer. As I said, I'm doing the new one first and then the old one.

I had a little "breakthrough" on the new one last night. Using Windows, I have been unable for many months to get my DVD/CD reader/writer to recognize fresh DVD+ data discs. I more or less of forgot that I had Sonic Digital Media Plus preinstalled, which I almost never used. But since I am spending a very large amount of time on all of this, I stumbled on Sonic and loaded it and, sure enough, if I use Sonic, my empty discs are recognized and I can burn data discs.

This breakthrough allows me to do a better backup than I could have done otherwise, but of course is taking up more time, especially since my OS is only working roughly 2 out of every 25 seconds. (Must be nice work if you can get it, laugh out loud.)

Anyway, while taking a break from working on the new computer, I fired up the old tower (with nothing hooked up to it)  in order to see if there is a recovery disc or not still sitting in the DVD/CD reader/writer and also, to see if it is still making the same healthy signs it made when it was working good. The good news is that the old computer is sounding the same as it did when it was up and running well, with no worrisome sounds at all, and you do in fact get that power up beep. So I continue to believe that the state of this computer, roughly speaking, is: totally hosed operating system, totally hosed boot up system, but good mechanically which, according to the information I have been getting, means it can be recovered.

But there is bad news: the CD/DVD drive tray will not open! It won't open with the power off when I press the button. It won't open with the power on when I press the button either. You hear two clicks about 3 seconds apart when you try to open the tray when the power is on. I did a Google and on some of them there is a pin hole which with a paper clip you are supposed to be able to manually open, but there doesn't seem to be a pin hole on mine. Nor does it seem to be possible to force the tray open without breaking it.

So my QUESTION is regarding how bad this news is...

How bad a sign is it that the tray will not open? Is it supposed to open when the computer is powered down? Is it supposed to refuse to open when the power is on but when there is nothing at all hooked up to the computer? Would it open if a monitor, keyborad, and mouse were cabled to the tower? 

Assuming this is a fairly major problem, is it possible to use a portable disc drive connected via USB to do a system recovery on a computer? your overthinking things.


Regarding AV programs I haven't usd one in years myself- (by which I mean, say, one running in the background).

This install of Windows XP that I'm running on right now is about 6 months old- but I reformatted simply to change my drive partitions a bit, not because of malware issues or whatnot. Also, my old PC, which  I still have but is kind of gutted right now, I had running over 5 years with a single install of windows XP that was installed over windows 98SE; aside from a few malware issues that I promptly noticed (it was a slow machine so any malware was pretty evident) and removed.

Also, the very first thing I did when I got my laptop, after being forced to basically run through the Recovery to get it setup initiallly, was a complete reformat. The laptop, even though it was a dual core and much faster then my desktop, was very slow. All the crap Toshiba decided I wanted took a toll, so I started off with a clean reformat, installed all the drivers and so forth, and now it runs blazingly fast.

This would be my only argument against a "recovery disk", since I can't stand having programs preinstalled for me, and prefer to install me own.




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And then you have the spontaneously developed operating system errors which grow and grow over time and become more and more annoying. If you could get used to doing recoveries with minimal disruption, you could actually make a case that regularly scheduled recoveries would be nice to do even if viruses did not exist, nice to do in other words just to clear up the errors

technically the errors aren't spontaneous, and appear in part due to user actions- but usually innocently, via the installation and removal of programs, some of which don't properly clean up their registry entries, which end up confusing later installations of other programs into making false assumptions, etc etc.


A Virus, as I'm sure your aware, is simply a program. The PC needs to be instructed to execute the virus- thus the RUN keys I describe in my previous post being manipulated. What you might have is simply some infected files sitting on the disk, perhaps you hadn't done a scan in the intervening time, but either way since you weren't experiencing symptoms chances are it was just a few random files that were harmful but not active.

Even so, it's not to difficult to clean it up, with various tools (free tools, of course). and a little extra time- just a few "deep scans" in a few anti-malware type apps.

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IMPORTANT QUESTION;
Can I deduce from this that if you have a retail Windows CD you can remove viruses from your computer that any number of antivirus programs have failed at removing?

That depends on experience- it requires one to identify the exact files that need to be deleted- all of them usually need to be deleted at once, or else what's left rebuilds the set. (it's kind of like those bosses in old games, where you have to strike hard and fast or else they regenerate  ). For me, I use an excellent program called Process Explorer, whereby in the event of a known infection I can find running programs and loaded DLL's that I know shouldn't be loaded, write them down, reboot into recovery console (which I have installed on my HD for quick access), and delete them. I've only had to do this once, for a virus that was completely undetected by any anti-malware app, but it is definitely a useful way of removing viruses. I wouldn't say it's particularly hard, once you've got the filenames, but it does require using the command line, and not everybody is comfortable there.




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ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION:
If you buy a Windows OS retail CD, how many computers can you use it in??
you can have virus files on your disk, but not be infected.


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If you buy a Windows OS retail CD, how many computers can you use it in??

well, your allowed to install it onto one PC. However, you can use the "repair" option or recovery console on any XP PC you want.


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I had a little "breakthrough" on the new one last night. Using Windows, I have been unable for many months to get my DVD/CD reader/writer to recognize fresh DVD+ data discs. I more or less of forgot that I had Sonic Digital Media Plus preinstalled, which I almost never used. But since I am spending a very large amount of time on all of this, I stumbled on Sonic and loaded it and, sure enough, if I use Sonic, my empty discs are recognized and I can burn data discs.

Actually- this is simply because the windows built-in burning for XP doesn't recognize DVDs.

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Thanks for that very good introduction to manual removal of viruses, especially since it calms me down a little about the seeming failure of antivirus programs: I can see what they are up against, a lot of stunts and tricks that unfortunately, the low-level programmers can think of. We did mention and emphasize how they are at the bottom of the barrell, didn't we?

there are some "brilliant" malware authors, but really I cannot myself respect them for what they do. I mean- after all- what if their programs infect a life-supporting network/PC, such as in a hospital? They could easily kill somebody with their mindless pranks. basically, the way I see it is, that a malware programmer either has something to prove (MS won't hire me- HP won't hire me... I'll show them... I'll show them ALL!), or has unscrupulous financial incentives (adware payloads). Thankfully for us most of them fall in the former category, and their released malware usually proves why they weren't hired. I mean seriously, I have to keep calling the virus tech support!

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Me: yeah, I got this message about your virus, saying something about not being able to delete my files

Support: Oh- yeah this is embarassing- what files?

Me: my document files, they are still there- the virus is supposed to delete them. This is three years of hard work that should be down the tube!

Support: OK, calm down, here, navigate using explorer, and delete the files manually-

Me: alright- but this better be fixed soon. deleting my important documents by hand is a chore. I really should start doing backups though.

heh,  just kidding of course



As far as the old tower and it's CD drive issues, it could just need some more time to open- even in the case it doesn't work it's a cheap replacement (usually ~25$), or perhaps a power supply issue- or even just a loose power plug...

Oh and it isn't supposed to open when the PCs off- since the motors to open need power silly 
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Regarding AV programs I haven't usd one in years myself- (by which I mean, say, one running in the background)
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Yes, see that's part of my "big picture" point, that  non-technical, newer uses such as me are fooled into thinking that antivirus programs will most likely keep your system up and running indefinitely, when the truth is they won't, and the truth is that the knowledge that people like you have and the techniques that people like you use are what really is necessary to keep a system up and running. It seems that by default, for less experienced but heavy computer users, the best and one of the only good ways to keep a computer up and running for as long as it mechanically can is to plan on regular "destructive" recoveries which are not really destructive in the case of such a user.

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This install of Windows XP that I'm running on right now is about 6 months old- but I reformatted simply to change my drive partitions a bit, not because of malware issues or whatnot. Also, my old PC, which  I still have but is kind of gutted right now, I had running over 5 years with a single install of windows XP that was installed over windows 98SE; aside from a few malware issues that I promptly noticed (it was a slow machine so any malware was pretty evident) and removed.

I'm thinking you removed the evident malware largely by removing registry keys and disabling start-up processes?

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Also, the very first thing I did when I got my laptop, after being forced to basically run through the Recovery to get it setup initiallly, was a complete reformat. The laptop, even though it was a dual core and much faster then my desktop, was very slow. All the crap Toshiba decided I wanted took a toll, so I started off with a clean reformat, installed all the drivers and so forth, and now it runs blazingly fast.

This would be my only argument against a "recovery disk", since I can't stand having programs preinstalled for me, and prefer to install me own.

The manufacturers or at least the sellers such as Tiger Direct should at a bare minimum offer the computer buyer the option to pick up a Windows OS disc at a discount (to go along with any recovery disc) at the time of a computer purchase. The whole computer buying experience seems to be geared only toward the lighter to moderate users, while the heavy users are like lambs in the lion's den, or cattle being led to slaughter, laugh out loud.

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technically the errors aren't spontaneous, and appear in part due to user actions- but usually innocently, via the installation and removal of programs, some of which don't properly clean up their registry entries, which end up confusing later installations of other programs into making false assumptions, etc etc.

And this means that any really heavy computer user will generate many more errors per hour of use than will a lighter user. It never ceases to amaze me how, even among regular visitors to my web sites, very few people exit via links to "satellite pages" and to other nice sites of mine. Whereas, I by contrast, when I am surfing, am constantly exploring promising links. People who click a lot of links, who are surprisingly rare, are the ones who are going to have to do scheduled recoveries, whereas maybe those who have the appetite of birds when they are surfing can perhaps get away without scheduling them.


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A Virus, as I'm sure your aware, is simply a program. The PC needs to be instructed to execute the virus- thus the RUN keys I describe in my previous post being manipulated. What you might have is simply some infected files sitting on the disk, perhaps you hadn't done a scan in the intervening time, but either way since you weren't experiencing symptoms chances are it was just a few random files that were harmful but not active.

Even so, it's not to difficult to clean it up, with various tools (free tools, of course). and a little extra time- just a few "deep scans" in a few anti-malware type apps.

That depends on experience- it requires one to identify the exact files that need to be deleted- all of them usually need to be deleted at once, or else what's left rebuilds the set. (it's kind of like those bosses in old games, where you have to strike hard and fast or else they regenerate  ). For me, I use an excellent program called Process Explorer, whereby in the event of a known infection I can find running programs and loaded DLL's that I know shouldn't be loaded, write them down, reboot into recovery console (which I have installed on my HD for quick access), and delete them. I've only had to do this once, for a virus that was completely undetected by any anti-malware app, but it is definitely a useful way of removing viruses. I wouldn't say it's particularly hard, once you've got the filenames, but it does require using the command line, and not everybody is comfortable there.

It seems that even when viruses are "removed," by the antivirus programs, they are sometimes (often?) never completely removed and, although they may not completely reconstitute themselves, these remnants of the original virus somehow manage to damage your operating system anyway in ensuing weeks and months. Either that or I have other, hidden viruses none of my antivirus programs know about. Or by SHEER coincidence, my operating system is spontaneously self-destructing shortly after major viruses are encountered and seemingly removed.

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well, your allowed to install it onto one PC. However, you can use the "repair" option or recovery console on any XP PC you want.

OK now I am getting a little confused again. Are you saying that a Windows retail CD actually can be used for three major tasks, which would be: (a) install the Windows OS (b) repair option and (c) recovery console?

After answering this, would you please explain what the repair option and, assuming it is different, what the recovery console utility is for? As you will see shortly, it looks like I have boxed myself into a corner where I have to use such a CD on the old computer whether I want to or not.

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Actually- this is simply because the windows built-in burning for XP doesn't recognize DVDs.

Wow, I thought this was the 21st century, laugh out loud.

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As far as the old tower and it's CD drive issues, it could just need some more time to open- even in the case it doesn't work it's a cheap replacement (usually ~25$), or perhaps a power supply issue- or even just a loose power plug...

You were exactly right. I turned the old one on again with a plan to keep trying to open the tray all day and all evening long if necessary. I alternated between pressing the button normally and holding it in for minutes at a time. Eventually, on roughly the 40th try, after about 40 minutes, it did open.

And there it was: a disc!. So then, I somehow got past the defenses and got to talk with a technician at Systemax, the manufacturer of the old computer. They cleared up a huge confusion about whether I had used the correct disc to attempt the recovery. It turns out I did in fact have the correct recovery disc. And I did in fact initiate recovery in the correct way. I tried several dozen times in fact, believe it or not, and each attempt to recovery failed.

This technician believes that my system was so extremely corrupted and out of control that, although it still recognized the recovery disc, presented the graphics for initiating the recovery, and attempted to perform the recovery, the recovery could not be accomplished. He said that having the recovery partition on the same disc as the working operating system is theoretically risky, though in practice it is rare for someone to have corruption so bad that the recovery partition can not be accessed and/or the recovery can not be done.

Do you know, just how rare would this be?

The moral of the story for me, it seems to be, is that I put up with increasing operating and boot-up deterioration so long that I lost the ability to do a recovery either before or at the same time that I lost any chance at all to boot up. So by soaking in too many bad vibes about recoveries that you get from such things as user manuals and to a lessor extent from many computer internet sites, I unwisely elected to keep putting off recovery week after week, falsely thinking that I would always be able to do one even with an unbootable machine. And now it turns out that if you wait too long, it can in fact be too late.

But having said all of that, it is apparently still theoretically possible to get this computer back into use again. According to the Sytemax tech, even though the old computer can not successfully do a recovery, if it recognizes discs, which I think it does, you can probably bring it back by using a retail Windows OS disc.

Now you, BC_Programmer, are the perfect guy to ask about this method, since this is your preferred method. Here are some questions I have:

1. Do I need to completely "wipe the drive" before I use the retail Windows OS disc?
1a. If so, how do I do that; do I need a separate disc to do that?

2. Do I need a separate disc to reformat (or partition?) the drive and if so, what exactly do I need?

3. Is there any other process I need to do, or is there any other disc I need to use, before inserting the retail Windows OS disc?

3. Will the Windows OS disc have most of the drivers I would have if I bought a new computer, or if I were able to recover the original factory settings of the computer in question?

3b. If not, how difficult is it to get the drivers you need?

4. Just to be absolutely clear regarding usage (ownership rights): if I were to buy a Windows OS disc and attempt to use it on the old computer, I would be unable to use it on any other computer, at least insofar as installation of an operating system is concerned? Is that correct? If so, I assume this would be enforced by some kind of licensing key?

ps: Just to add a major specific example regarding how out of control this system was and still is right now, when you power it up, one of many wild things going on was and probably still is a never ending check disc routine running as soon as you power up. This is the widest Post i've seen in awhile... Quote
1. Do I need to completely "wipe the drive" before I use the retail Windows OS disc?
1a. If so, how do I do that; do I need a separate disc to do that?
the best method is to wipe the drive- assuming of course there isn't any data on the drive you want to keep, such as articles that you haven't uploaded and so on.

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2. Do I need a separate disc to reformat (or partition?) the drive and if so, what exactly do I need?


Aside from the retail windows OS disc, you won't need any other disks. however, if the PC is newer then about three years I'd make sure to go to the manufacturers site and at least download the network card driver, so that you can access the net in the event that the default Install CD doesn't have a generic driver for the card.

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3. Is there any other process I need to do, or is there any other disc I need to use, before inserting the retail Windows OS disc?

I don't know, it would depend on the age of the PC. if they use SATA to connect their hard disks then you would need a disk for that or else it will blue screen on every boot. We could confirm this if you pass on the manufacturer and model number of the machine (if you already did- sorry but our posts are really long  ).

For my machine, I was able to simply boot from the XP disk and format the hard drive, and install windows. less then an hour after starting I had a fresh windows install.

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3. Will the Windows OS disc have most of the drivers I would have if I bought a new computer, or if I were able to recover the original factory settings of the computer in question?

3b. If not, how difficult is it to get the drivers you need?
I guess I've already half-answered this depends on the age of the PC. The most important one to ALWAYS have is the network card driver, so that y ou can access the net on the PC and download the proper drivers for your machine. Manufacturers generally allow the drivers to be downloaded for their PCs, and assuming you haven't had any innards changed (such as the video card and so forth) you will be FINE to visit their site to download drivers. Of course, as I mentioned you can give us the manufacturer and model and we can help you find them )

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4. Just to be absolutely clear regarding usage (ownership rights): if I were to buy a Windows OS disc and attempt to use it on the old computer, I would be unable to use it on any other computer, at least insofar as installation of an operating system is concerned? Is that correct? If so, I assume this would be enforced by some kind of licensing key?
If you install XP into the old PC, you are prompted to give the CD-KEY which is contained somewhere on the packaging on a sticker,, and really is what you paid for- the license. (thankfully microsoft provides us discs as an added convenience to taking advantage of that license  ).


After installation, windows will want to be "activated", which means it will connect to a microsoft server; if you later install XP onto another machine (say your new one), the same CD KEY will not work as the other machine has already been activated with it.

you CAN, however, use that disc to perform a repair install without worrying about activation- another method would be to copy the file C:\windows\system32\wpa.dbl to a floppy disk or other removable disk, and then instead of activating the machine copy it back to the same location. This will give you the same license you were given by purchasing the PC in the first place, and is not "sidestepping" the protection in any way.

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ps: Just to add a major specific example regarding how out of control this system was and still is right now, when you power it up,
one of many wild things going on was and probably still is a never ending check disc routine running as soon as you power up.



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however, if the PC is newer then about three years I'd make sure to go to the manufacturers site and at least download the network card driver, so that you can access the net in the event that the default Install CD doesn't have a generic driver for the card.

It's very important that I get this correct; I will soon be on the hunt for this. If I do a successful recovery but have no internet, it will be yet another example of winning a battle but sort of losing the war, especially since my only phone is internet phone!

You mean, to make sure I understand, that I go to the manufacturer site and download the network card driver to a disc right now, and then, if after a recovery I have no internet, I need to install that driver from the disc or from the portable hard drive?

And that since I am attempting two recoveries, I need to have the network card driver for both of them on a data disc or on a portable HD? For any and all other missing drivers, I can get them from the manufacturer sites later? Am I still correct?

Also, and this is very important too, when you use the term "network card driver," is this the same as "nic driver," which is what my isp is warning me about making sure I have in advance in case I don't have it after a recovery?. I'm thinking it is the very same thing, and that "nic" refers to "network interface card," which would be for present purposes the same thing as network card driver. Am I correct?

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I don't know, it would depend on the age of the PC. if they use SATA to connect their hard disks then you would need a disk for that or else it will blue screen on every boot. We could confirm this if you pass on the manufacturer and model number of the machine (if you already did- sorry but our posts are really long 

This is the kind of thing that makes me nervous: reference to a disc I've never heard of before. I am thinking you are referring to the old computer recovery via a windows disc and not to the new computer recovery via the system recovery program using the recovery partition, am I correct?

If I am correct in interpreting you, then I need to give you the model only of the old computer:

Old Computer: Systemax Ascent BA3200 RTSPC

I don't know whether the "RTSPC" is needed or not.
 
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If you install XP into the old PC, you are prompted to give the CD-KEY which is contained somewhere on the packaging on a sticker,, and really is what you paid for- the license. (thankfully microsoft provides us discs as an added convenience to taking advantage of that license 

After installation, windows will want to be "activated", which means it will connect to a microsoft server; if you later install XP onto another machine (say your new one), the same CD KEY will not work as the other machine has already been activated with it.

There is still a lot of confusion about this, so please clarify even more than you already have.

My brother, who is an electrical engineer, is at least as confused about this as I am. Although he and everyone else seems to agree that manufacturer recovery discs that use recovery partitions are machine-specific, he told me that you can in fact use a retail OS CD disc to install Windows in more than one machine at about the same time. I asked him: what would happen if you tried to install windows with a retail CD and the installation failed to one extent or another, so you wanted to junk the machine and install into a different computer using the CD? Or, what if the install was successful, but there was a hard drive crash a month later, and you wanted to abandon that computer for a different one? He said that for all scenarios such as these, the license key system would not stop you from installing Windows in a separate machine. He said the license key system is to monitor for (and prevent?) more than a very small number of installations with the same disc, I'm thinking maybe the number he has in mind is four or five.

Therefore, given the contradiction between what he said and what you have said, would you clarify: are you completely certain that a retail Windows OS disc can be used one and only one time, and in one and only one machine, as far as the installation of the OS is concerned? So that, for example, if a month or two after the install the computer mechanically fails and is abandoned, you still can not use the same OS disc to install Windows in a different computer?

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you CAN, however, use that disc to perform a repair install without worrying about activation-


Can you please explain a little about what this is: I have never even heard of this until now.

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another method would be to copy the file C:\windows\system32\wpa.dbl to a floppy disk or other removable disk, and then instead of activating the machine copy it back to the same location. This will give you the same license you were given by purchasing the PC in the first place, and is not "sidestepping" the protection in any way.

Instead of this, which I'm nervous about being able to do this, can you do the following in order to use a single Windows OS CD on two different computers?

1. Find out what the original Windows OS license key was (the one for the OS which is corrupted and no longer working) and simply copy your license number on a piece of paper.

2. Input this original license key during the installation rather than the license key of the Windows OS CD you are using.

In other words, are you given an opportunity during the installation to use a license key other than the license key provided by the retail OS disc itself?

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I hope you don't mind a few questions on another important subject; I didn't want to put this off until tomorrow because I am shooting for a Friday recovery attempt on the new computer and because I missed three days of posting here due to being bogged down with various recovery preparations using my crippled OS.

MORE QUESTIONS: Regarding Programs Post Recovery

I'll give you a series of statements that I believe are true, but since I am continually subject to false assumptions, see if my statements are true or false.

1. TRUE OR FALSE: If you have them, you can save installation files onto a portable hard drive or a data disc, and then use them to install a program onto your main drive after a recovery?

2. TRUE OR FALSE: By looking at the C-drive directory, you can see the folders where most of your installed programs lie. In some cases, and this is especially true for smaller programs, you can copy the whole program folder to a portable hard drive or to a data disc, and then install the program simply by copying the folder back over to the C-drive following the recovery. (Actually, I have no idea whether this is true or false, but if I had to bet, I'd say it's false, because by doing this you still have not actually officially installed the program, but as we know, my assumptions are often wrong. Or else it's false because in many or all cases, there will be program components elsewhere, and not found in the folders.)

3. TRUE OR FALSE: Assuming you are doing a manufacturer type recovery using the Recovery Partition, (what I am attempting this Friday or so with the new computer) you will get most or all of the programs that you had the day you turned the computer on for the first time.

4. TRUE OR FALSE: One of the first things you should do after a successful recovery is update Windows to the latest security pack. You should not have to worry about any problem with this upgrading. Specifically, Pac #3 from just about a year ago is safe and trouble free to use.

5. TRUE OR FALSE: Regardless of answers to the above, it's kind of risky to transfer programs from a pre-recovered system to a post-recovered system, because viruses and spyware, that helped to make the recovery mandatory can possibly lurk inside these programs.

6. TRUE OR FALSE: Programs for which you have discs, such as in my case Microsoft Office, can be reinstalled post recovery (using the same license key you have always had). In other words, there is rarely any time limit on your use of purchased software such as Microsoft Office. And, unlike with respect to the Microsoft Windows OS, there is no confusion about whether you can install programs such as Microsoft Office on more than one computer: you definitely can do so. However, if you tried to install it in a large number of computers, 10 or 15 or 25 or some such number of computers, you would be stopped by the license key system?

Please explain a little when the answer is somewhere between true or false.

Thanks very much.

ps FINAL PREPARATIONS FOR RECOVERY SCHEDULE:

Monday: Complete Post-Recovery program reinstallation plan and preparations. Also, secure on backup disc all drivers necessary for post-recovery internet access in case they are lost during the recovery.
Tuesday: Complete Multi-media backup according to the Backup Protocal
Wednesday: Shop for specific hardware up to and including a new PC, so that an actual order can be placed for new hardware in case of catastrophic failure of the recovery process. As time permits, disable a few more processes and uninstall a few more programs
Thursday: Attempt to temporarily recover the new computer OS via up to five restarts, and via a System Restore.
Friday: Attempt to recover the OS of new computer using the application on the C-drive. If necessary, use the "recovery disc"

Next Week: Attempt to recover the OS of old computer
SPRING 2009 INVESTIGATION PROJECT
REINSTALLATION OF OPERATING SYSTEMS: MYTHS, REALITIES, LITTLE KNOWN FACTS

This spring I suspended normal operations due to continual operating system problems, and due to apparently being misled by computer manufacturers and by my computer user manuals and so forth. I launched an investigation into the myths, realities, and little known facts regarding the courruption of and reinstallation of operating systems.

MYTH: Operating systems slow down and eventually stop working completely due to viruses and spyware
REALITY: It's not just malware by any stretch. They slow down and eventually stop working due to viruses, spyware, and also spontaneous errors caused by usage. The more you use an operating system, the more errors you will have over time, even if there is no damage from viruses and spyware. These errors are of course cumulative, and it seems that the size or impact of new errors (in terms of annoyance and loss of functionality) grows over time as well.

MYTH: A good"security suite" with a good antivirus program as the primary component of it is enough to keep your operating system working satisfactorily, so that you will not have to do recoveries (reinstallations) of the operating system.
REALITY: That is false; security programs allow enough viruses and spyware to get through that it is inevitable that a heavy internet user will have to reinstall the operating system before the computer is mechanically worn out.

Another reason this is a myth is that even viruses and spyware that are detected by the defensive programs can do substantial and permanent damage before they are quarantined or deleted by those programs.

Also, the more antivirus and antispyware programs you install on your computer, the more likely it is that conflicts between them will cause major programs and the operating system itself to slow down or even crash completely. Some believe that you should never ever have more than one anti-virus/anti-spyware program installed at any time,  although I personally have had some success with as many as four installed at once, with two of those simultaneously providing real time protection (Avira Anti-Vir and Spybot).

I've always wondered whether those who think you can only have one anti-malware program installed mean that you have to choose between an anti-virus program and an anti-spyware program, or whether they mean that you are limited to one of each.

Based on my experience, you need one of each at an absolute minimum. Whether you can have one of each set to active, real time protection reamins totally unclear to me.

Nor is it clear which type you should choose to have set to real time protection assuming you are electing only one. Anti-virus programs used to be considered far more important than anti-spyware programs, but spyware has exploded much more than viruses have in recent years, apparently. As I said, I think you have to have both, and untless it is proven to me that this is really bad practice (instead of another myth) I'm going to use both in the real time protection mode.

MYTH: If you avoid low traffic, off the beaten track sites, you will avoid viruses and spyware.
REALITY: Perhaps there was some truth to that years and years ago, but viruses and spyware have exploded in recent years and apparently, they can be inserted by sophisticated hackers into almost any web page at any time.

It is true that, generally speaking, it will take more time for your computer to be infected if you avoid all off the beaten track, low traffic web sites. But you will be eventually infected even if you avoid those obscure sites. If you are a heavy internet user, then by definition you will not be limiting yourself to the heavy traffic, safer sites.

It is true, however, that among the favorite virus and spyware transmission conduits are files obtained by peer to peer programs, particularly torrents.  Using torrents is one of the riskiest things you can do.

MYTH: Recoveries will not be necessary for computer users who take the appropriate preventive measures.
REALITY: That is true only for most light and perhaps to some degree moderate users. Heavy users of the internet, for example, those who visit several dozen sites every day, will inevitably have to do recoveries (reinstallations of Windows) before their computers mechanically wear out.

MYTH: You should wait until a technician tells you to recover your operating system. Recoveries should be put off as long as possible.
REALITY: This is a very wrong, and very dangerous to believe myth. Your computer can become so corrupted that you can no longer do the recovery, particularly the type of recovery using a recovery partition and an application installed by the manufacturer.

MYTH: Manufacturers do everything possible to allow even a heavy user to easily repair his operating system.
REALITY: Laugh out loud! They don't, and they used to do more years ago, when almost everyone who bought a computer got a disk with Windows on it at the time of purchase. New, naive, heavy computer users are like cattle being led to slaughter.

Recoveries using discs with the Windows operating system on it are less vulnerable to being ruled out by corruption, but computer manufacturers (probably due to some kind of pressure from Microsoft) stopped giving computer buyers discs with the particular Windows operating system that is on the computer when it is sold some years ago.

Waht do manufacturers do these days? Some manufacturers issue what are called  "recovery discs," but this is one of those vague, confusing terms which can mean different things. A recovery disc could be any of the following:

(a) A disc provided by the manufacturer with the Windows operating system on it, but note that this is not a "retail Windows disc".
(b) A disc provided by the manufacturer that has the application allowing you to reinstall the operating system by using the recovery partition (which was installed by the factory and has your "original factory settings, including of course the orogianl operating system").
(c) A disc that you burned, probably on instructions from the manufacturer, that has the Windows operating system on it.
(d) A disc that you burned, probably on instructions from the manufacturer, that has the application allowing you to reinstall the operating system by using the recovery partition.

What if you don't have any of these, or what if you have won't work? If you are completely up the creek with no paddle, you may be able to inexpensively buy from a small, independent computer business a recovery disc that has the operating system on it. You may or may not be able to get such a disc from your manufacturer. If you can get one from your manufacturer,  it will probably be more expensive than the same thing would be from an independent computer business. 

Make sure the independent computer business burns all of the original drivers for your machine onto any recovery disk they are selling to you.

When you use any recovery disc that has Windows on it to reinstall, you will enter your existing Windows license key (the one from the damaged operating system that you are going to replace) to validate the reinstallation.

When you buy a computer with a preinstalled operating system, you are never supposed to have to spend good money to buy a retail Windows disc. (unless you want a new operating system for that computer).  Once you buy an operating system and have a license for it, it is yours to keep. There is no expiration on operating system licenses. So it is a scandal for anyone to be left high and dry. The scandal is due to some combination of false faith in reliability of operating systems, manufacturer laziness or cheapness, and pressure from Microsoft because they figure the less copies of Windows floating around the better.

I'm sure that Microsoft will be glad to take your money if out of desperation you buy a new retail operating system disc when you already permanently own your copy of the operating system and you are legally not supposed to have to buy it again! But why do so?

Keep in mind that manufactured discs are a little more reliable than ones that you have burned. Also keep in mind that recovery discs that have only the applicaton for the method using a recovery partition are much less reliable than those that have Windows itself on them.. sionce your system may be too corrupted for such a disc to work. 

What I rhave developed to gage when I should perform a recovery is a point system where every annoying, damaging, and dangerous things that programs, the operating system, and the computer in general can do is assigned a score. Scores for every failure that occurs are logged, and the cumulative score is kept track of. Obiously, you want to assign alot more points to failures that are the most damaging to your productivity You also need to assign the most points to those failures that you know from experience are the ones that are closely associated with eventual total failure of the operating system..

For example,  in my system, if the computer fails to boot up  in the normal way, 1,800 points are charged for the first instance and 900 points are charged for each additional instance. Another example is that each time a browser crashes, 250 points are charged. Very minor annoyances might be as little as 1-10 points.

Once the cumulative score for all program, operating system, and boot up failures reaches a certain maximum allowable amount (between 8,000 and 20,000 points in my system, depending on how many hours of usage) a recovery is supposed to be done immediately, even if on that particular day the operating system and your programs are working satisfactorily.

This system is SMART, because the operating system can and will trick you into thinking that whatever problems it has been having are gone for good, when in reality the problems are never gone for good. The problems become worse and worse, more and more bizarre, and more and more frequent. It makes no sense to subject yourself to false hope, to in other words allow yourself to be tricked by your own computer and operating system.

Which leads to another myth and reality:

MYTH: You should spend a lot of time on anti-malware forums trying to manually remove viruses.
REALITY: You should limit your time there.  It is ridiculous to do something like 7-8 scans on your system (and then none of them turn up anythin, laugh out loud.) It seems that even security experts need many hours of your and their time to completely remove major viruses, whereas a recovery can be done in less than an hour. Recoveries remove roughly 99% of all viruses and spyware completely, and they correct about 100% of all errors as well  The longer you have gone without a fresh start with your operating system, the less likely manual virus removal, even if apparently at first successful, will be anything more than a tremporary fix.

MYTH: The little known "recovery console" which allows for a "repair install" of windows can often solve problems, so that a full reinstall is not necessary.
REALITY: My information is that repair installs using the recovery console will solve your problems less than half the time. Moreover, using the recovery console is apparently a complicated thing that only trained technicians should do. I think you lose some of your settings and data when you use the recovery console repair install method, but not all of them and it.

MYTH: Data on your main hard drive, although not as safe as data on an external hard drive or on a data disk, is somewhat safe, and/ so therefore it has some value.
REALITY: For heavy internet users, all data on the main hard drive should be considered worthless, since it is at all times highly vulnerable to being lost due to operating system errors and malware that can at any time shut down the operating system permanently.

Arguably, data on the main hard drive should not even be counted as a copy of your data, meaning that you would need, for example, two external hard drives with your data on them to constitute a true backup of your data. If you settle for counting the data on your main hard drive as a true copy of your data, you are still taking a slight risk that you will completely lose your data. You could, for example,  plausibly have your operating system on the main hard drive permanently crash due to corruption and your external hard drive mechanically crash at about the same time, which would leave you with nothing. 

Since the cost of external hard drives expressed as a per gig of storage rate has been dropping like a rock in recent years, you should seriously consider using two portable hard drives as your data first copy and your backup, and not count any data on your main hard drive as having any value to you.

I've always wondered why there are computers for sale with very samll hard drives, ones big enough for the operating system, your programs, and not much else. Now I think I know the reason: people who regard having data on the operating system as silly are buying and using those computers.

A huge side benefit of having two external hard drives is that once you have them, you will most likely be disciplined enough to avoid putting your latest work on your main hard drive and not backing it up right away, which is a stupid thing to do, but is an easy bad habit to have. If you insist on just one external hard drive, leave it connected to your computer all the time, and use the external for all new work, and then periodically back up what you have put on the external back on to the main hard drive. Note that this is the reverse of what most people think of when they think of backing up data, so this would constitute another myth verus reality.

MYTH; You back up from the main hard drive to your backup media.
REALITY: The much smarter  approach is that you backup from your primary backup media back to the computer hard drive.

Here's one that really flipped my brain:

MYTH: Viruses on your backup media are worse than viruses on your main hard drive; you need to keep your backed up data as pure as possible.
REALITY: Another very important and little known reason for not putting any data at all on your main computer hard drive i (or at least to consider data on your main hard drive as nothing more than a cheap and temporary backup) is that most viruses are unable to do anywhere near as much damage to you overall if they are sitting on an external hard drive or on a data disc as compared with if they are on your main hard drive. This is becuase most dangerous viruses need an operating system  in general and the registry in particular to do damage. So if the virus is sitting on a disc that has no operating system, it will generally be unable to do any damage, or at the least it will be capable of only very limited damage.

Many understand the concept that viruses generally do not migrate from a main hard drive to an external hard drive or to a data disk (except if they do so via backup). Much less known is that viruses generally can not migrate in the other direction, from an external hard drive or a data disc to a primary hard drive, a fact which if exploited by a heavy computer user may actually be that user's number one defense against operating system corruption from malware.

In other words, you can help protect your operating system by not having any data on the hard drive that the operating system is on, by using two backup media for your data only, with nothing on the main hard drive but the operating system and your programs. That system is obviously not fullproof, but will most likely allow you to go longer before you have to reinstall the operating system.Still a wide topic.....^^^Yes, as with all of my articles, it's just as "wide" as necessary to be worthwhile.

One of the most important objectives of this project was for me to get out of the rut where I am being nickled and dimed to death with the time spent on countless manual operating system fixes that are only temporary fixes, and with all the workaround tricks that you learn to do.  I am sick of being tricked into thinking that I have successfully solved a problem when all I have achieved is a temporary reduction in the level of OS problems and errors.

Assuming I have discovered the real truth about the subjects covered, at least I get something ireally valuable n exchange for losing about half of my internet traffic for the next several month: a permanent reduction in the number of hours spent slaving away on operating system problems.

There has to be a limit and there will be a limit on all of the hours spent on trying to correct operating system errors and on trying to manually remove viruses and spyware. Always keep in mind, that OS reinstallations take about an hour, they get rid of virtually all errors and malware, and they generally give you roughly 5,000 hours minimum of relatively trouble free operating. 

Since my previous questions were not answered, (and I am not really upset or disturbed about that by the way) 'll try to answer them myself:

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You mean, to make sure I understand, that I go to the manufacturer site and download the network card driver to a disc right now, and then, if after a recovery I have no internet, I need to install that driver from the disc or from the portable hard drive?


Yes, that's what he meant. I do have the original drivers on disk in the very unlikely event they are needed after the recovery.

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And that since I am attempting two recoveries, I need to have the network card driver for both of them on a data disc or on a portable HD? For any and all other missing drivers, I can get them from the manufacturer sites later? Am I still correct?

Yes, I am pretty sure that is true.
 
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There is still a lot of confusion about this, so please clarify even more than you already have.

My brother, who is an electrical engineer, is at least as confused about this as I am. Although he and everyone else seems to agree that manufacturer recovery discs that use recovery partitions are machine-specific, he told me that you can in fact use a retail OS CD disc to install Windows in more than one machine at about the same time. I asked him: what would happen if you tried to install windows with a retail CD and the installation failed to one extent or another, so you wanted to junk the machine and install into a different computer using the CD? Or, what if the install was successful, but there was a hard drive crash a month later, and you wanted to abandon that computer for a different one? He said that for all scenarios such as these, the license key system would not stop you from installing Windows in a separate machine. He said the license key system is to monitor for (and prevent?) more than a very small number of installations with the same disc, I'm thinking maybe the number he has in mind is four or five.

Therefore, given the contradiction between what he said and what you have said, would you clarify: are you completely certain that a retail Windows OS disc can be used one and only one time, and in one and only one machine, as far as the installation of the OS is concerned? So that, for example, if a month or two after the install the computer mechanically fails and is abandoned, you still can not use the same OS disc to install Windows in a different computer?
 

Based on a discussion with a computer store/repair shop tech, and on other information, I believe the truth is as follows:

1. Legally speaking, when you buy a computer that has Windows installed on it, or if you buy a retail Windows disc, you are buying the license to use Windows on one specific computer, and on that one computer only.
2. Apparently however, Microsoft does not have a foolproof way of preventing someone from using the license intended for one computer on a small number of other computers. However, since every computer has at least one operating system license key, in real life there is little motiviation to do this.
3. One good way of removing yourself from being up a creek without a paddle is to buy a recovery disk, that has Windows and all original drivers on it, from a small, well run computer store/repair facility. I assume that large Corporate stores such as Computer City would refuse to help anyone in this way. You can perhaps use such a disc to recover an apparently junk computer, using your original Windows license key to validate the installation.

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Can you please explain a little about what this is: I have never even heard of this until now.

This quote refers to the recovery console. See the previous post (my summary article) for what I have learned about this.

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Instead of this, which I'm nervous about being able to do this, can you do the following in order to use a single Windows OS CD on two different computers?

1. Find out what the original Windows OS license key was (the one for the OS which is corrupted and no longer working) and simply copy your license number on a piece of paper.

2. Input this original license key during the installation rather than the license key of the Windows OS CD you are using.

In other words, are you given an opportunity during the installation to use a license key other than the license key provided by the retail OS disc itself?


All of this is apparently true.

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1. TRUE OR FALSE: If you have them, you can save installation files onto a portable hard drive or a data disc, and then use them to install a program onto your main drive after a recovery?


Most likely, this is true.

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2. TRUE OR FALSE: By looking at the C-drive directory, you can see the folders where most of your installed programs lie. In some cases, and this is especially true for smaller programs, you can copy the whole program folder to a portable hard drive or to a data disc, and then install the program simply by copying the folder back over to the C-drive following the recovery. (Actually, I have no idea whether this is true or false, but if I had to bet, I'd say it's false, because by doing this you still have not actually officially installed the program, but as we know, my assumptions are often wrong. Or else it's false because in many or all cases, there will be program components elsewhere, and not found in the folders.)

This is likely to be mostly or totally false.

However, if you know in advance that you will doing one or more reinstallations of your OS, you will if you are smart take care to hold on to all of your program disks, and also you will make sure that you always save installation files on your hard drive for programs for which you do not have installation discs. I am reasonably certain that you can copy program installation files to a backup media, copy them back to the main hard drive after the OS reinstallation, and then reinstall the program(s) with no problem.

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3. TRUE OR FALSE: Assuming you are doing a manufacturer type recovery using the Recovery Partition, (what I am attempting this Friday or so with the new computer) you will get most or all of the programs that you had the day you turned the computer on for the first time.

Almost certainly true.

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4. TRUE OR FALSE: One of the first things you should do after a successful recovery is update Windows to the latest security pack. You should not have to worry about any problem with this upgrading. Specifically, Pac #3 from just about a year ago is safe and trouble free to use.


The first part is true, but Service Pac 3 for XP has been known to cause problems with certain programs. I don't know enough details on this subject to be able to say whether it is wise to pass on Servoce Pack 3 or not. I do know that a substantial number of computer users do not install Service Pack 3.

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5. TRUE OR FALSE: Regardless of answers to the above, it's kind of risky to transfer programs from a pre-recovered system to a post-recovered system, because viruses and spyware, that helped to make the recovery mandatory can possibly lurk inside these programs.

This is true. Therefore, you should only attempt to carry over the installation files and perhaps the program folders of programs that are definitely valuable to you, that you do not have installation discs for, and that you can not freely download from the internet. Obviously, it would be silly to, even if you could do it, migrate programs such as Windows Media Player and the Firefox browser from your old operating system to your new, reinstalled one. These programs and many others are freely available for download off the internet any day of the week.

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6. TRUE OR FALSE: Programs for which you have discs, such as in my case Microsoft Office, can be reinstalled post recovery (using the same license key you have always had). In other words, there is rarely any time limit on your use of purchased software such as Microsoft Office. And, unlike with respect to the Microsoft Windows OS, there is no confusion about whether you can install programs such as Microsoft Office on more than one computer: you definitely can do so. However, if you tried to install it in a large number of computers, 10 or 15 or 25 or some such number of computers, you would be stopped by the license key system?

I am reasonably certain this is mostly true, except that I remain in the dark about whether there is a limit on how many computers you can use programs you own, such as Microsoft Office, on.

Laugh out loud at that schedule, which was wildly optimistic. I'm always posting unrealistic schedules! The recovery on the newer computer is scheduled for Monday now. It will be Tuesday at the latest.tremaine, please edit your reply #32 to remove the code tags that you accidentally used instead of the quote tags.

patio meant wide as in horizontal space, not topic breadth LOL.

8165.

Solve : Hi, I am experiencing critical problems with my HP, Vista laptop?

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I was only making sure, the OP is aware, that by using vacuum cleaner to clean his laptop, some part(s) might have been damaged, and the dump file, seems to be proving my claim.
It can be just RAM, so your advice to run memtest is good, but it may be also something else.Thanks for all the replies guys, but I just want to clarify that I didn't ACTUALLY use a vaccum celaner (w/ bristels per se). All I used was this mini-vacuum, basically similar to a small compressed air can. (it had a small tube that i used to blow away any dust). Not sure I could damage the RAM from that, but I'll take your advice anyway.


BTW, I someone else told me about memtest and I ran it for about 3-4 hours and I'm PRETTY sure I didn't see any bad sectors or such. To be certain, I'll run it again. What's the recommended time I should run it for?, and are there any ideal conditions (plugged/unplugged/etc) that I should run it in?The best way, is just to leave it overnight. Plugged/unplugged doesn't matter.hi i have sama problem what should i do?what is the solution?ram?or somthing else?PLZ help me az soon az possible this killing me plz DONT jack someone elses post as this will CAUSE confusion with the posts

8166.

Solve : disable I.E.7 script error messages?

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I am trying to disable script error messages in I.E.7 A previous post on this site from Feb. 15, 2009 from Calm as a bomb seems to have what I am looking for with one exception.  I have WINDOWS XP PRO, SP3 and use Mozilla Firefox as my default browser.

Calm as a bomb gave these directions:

Type:  Services.msc into RUN on the Start menu.  I did that.

Press OK  I did that

Click the Extended Tab at bottom to view all your services.  I did that.

Scroll down the list until you come to  Machine Debug Manager. 

This where I am having a problem.  My list (I have checked and rechecked it) does not have service called Machine Debug Manager.  Maybe Calm as a  bomb is running something else besides I.E.7  That's what I have and I am not GETTING anything named Machine Debug Manager. I am on the correct page that he states to go to.  Can this service/function be listed under or in somthing else on this page with what is operating on my system?  Thank you.

8167.

Solve : Word Alignment.?

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HAPPY Easter ALL.

MS WORD is not one of my IT stong POINTS.

My OS is Windows 2000 and Office Suite is 2003.

I am seeking for a way to allow the first and last words of

every full line in a paragraph to end in line with each other

[ LEFT and right] prior to printing.

I tried jogging the spacebar but have a FEELING that there is

something in Word that does the trick. Thanks for any suggestion.
There are alignment choice in the Paragraph section above the page where you type your text.  Hover your cursor over each, and you'll see Left, Center and Right Justify.  The last choice in the group is Justify, which will place the text as you want it.
8168.

Solve : cache overflow?

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hello everyone

i need to delete my IE cache overflow , and so far i have found two ways to do it (below).  would one of you fine fellows take a look and let me know which is the best.

#1-TIP > Internet Explorer Cache Overflow
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For manual deletion, use this method:

1. Open an Explorer folder window (for EXAMPLE, double-click My Computer). From the Explorer menu select Tools | Folder Options | View. Make sure that you have checked the box next to "Show hidden files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system files".

2. Start Internet Explorer and click Tools | Internet Options | General tab | Settings | View Files.

3. IE should have opened up a folder window, typically viewing a folder with the name of C:\Windows\Temporary Internet Files. Put your CURSOR in the Address area of the folder window and add the name \content.ie5 to the name, so in our example the Address bar would now read c:\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\content.ie5.

4. You should see a series of four folders with random eight-character names like ADOZMZS1. Go into each folder and delete all the files they contain. Do not delete the folders.

5. If desired, reset the folder options you changed in step 1.

#2-For manual deletion, use the method below:

Click My Computer/Tools/Folder Options/View. Check the box ?Show hidden files and folders?, and uncheck ?Hide protected operating system files?.
Reboot the computer while tapping the F5 key. At the options menu choose either Safemode with Command Prompt or F8/ Safemode with Command Prompt. Log on as Administrator and also repeat the proceedure as Regular User. At the blinking cursor enter ?del index.dat /s? without the quotes. Now press "Enter". *Take NOTE, there is a space after del and after .dat.
You may reset the folder options changed in step 1 if you like.
The above PROCEDURE also deletes the IE cache index (index.dat) file as they are often damaged. Microsoft documents 306837 and 293402 provide additional information on this issue
 
     

Use CCleaner: http://www.ccleaner.com/download/builds. Get "Slim" version.
Broni

 sure do appreciate your reply.  i d/l the ccleaner but do not know what to check i think it would be something in the advanced part.

help me if you can
harleyThis is my setup:



You may WANT to uncheck "cookies", so you don't lose your passwords.

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Solve : missing ethernet control port since system restore.?

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i am using a dell dimension 4550 with windows xp home service pack 1.i have had to action a full system restore due to a virus and have reinstalled windows xp from original cd that came with pc.also run dell resource cd to add drivers etc.all working fine except for a missing ethernet controller port.i have tried driver roll back updating driver from original cd.but the system will not recognise that drivers are on discs.i am therefore unable to CONNECT to web with my pc to download updated drivers and DONT know what else to do.please could someone help as i am sending post from a mobile phone internet connection.If you kept all the cd's that came with your computer when you bought it then you should have all the correct drivers required for reinstallation.

How are you trying to install the Network drivers?

Are you getting an error MESSAGE when installing the Network drivers?

If all else fails you will need to download the latest drivers from dell's support section on their website (from a friends house or a public library).Travel to Dell's site and enter the Service Tag # off the machine...
You will see a list of all your drivers.thanks patio but i only have ACCESS to mobile phone internet.i tried to use my phone as a modum but my nokia n 96 will only work with windows xp service pack 2 which i cant download as no pc access. :-(Does your next-door neighbor have internet access ? ?
Time to bake some chocolate-chip cookies ! !

 Look around on your CD that came with the machine for your motherboard drivers and install them. Do a reboot and than the NIC drivers should install.

lol at least someone made me laugh today ive been sat at pc since 5 this morning tearing my hair out i rang dell and they said they could fix it in 5 mins for a £60 + vat charge so baking cookies it is then lolthanks spoiler ill give it a try now.cheers.im not that confident but here goes lol
 Good on you...
Don't pay Dell any MONEY....drivers are and always have been FREE...hey i just dug out an old laptop with a broken screen but is working perfect otherwise.i have connected my desktop monitor to lap top so can use it.could you advise me how to transfer data from laptop to desktop although i have no cable to join the 2.sorry to be a pain but im a novice to all this This is a common problem. If you load the montherboard drivers and than reboot your system will "see" the network card and let you install the drivers for it.

You should have a restore CD with your system drivers on it.

 Hi,
What i would advise doing is going to your local library or a friends house with a flash drive and downloading the driver from the internet, putting it on the flash driver and bringing it back plugin it into your computer and loading the driver from that to your computer so you dont have to deal with connecting computers togeather. Hope this helps

8170.

Solve : Adding Sound Card to Dell Computer?

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I have an older Dell computer and WOULD LIKE to set it up so my g'kids can play the computer games that we have.  I have Windows 98 that I can install.  The problem is that the computer has not sound.  How difficult would it be to add a sound card, and is it something I can do myself?  I am not going to connect the computer to the internet, just going to set it up to play the games.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  It will be a looong school vacation.  Thanksit's easy to install but you need to download the drivers for the card if a drivers cd does not come with the card.

When you said computer doesn't have sound, you meant it does not have a card already in that can play sound or just that you can't get the already present device to work?Sound card always comes with driver CD.Just make sure that that card has drivers for 98.The computer never had sound.  There must be something I have to do other than install the disc?  SORRY if I am sounding stupid, but it's something I have not done before.  How much will it cost?Basic sound card, ~$15.Are you sure you have the speakers plugged into the right port?yeswoah- if there is a place to plug speakers into, you have a sound card.

so all you need is to install the drivers.

download everest, run it and save a quick report. attach it to your next post.Just go to youtube and SEARCH "install sound card" and you'll get a video explaining how to install. Luck. Quote from: BRONI on April 09, 2009, 06:34:18 PM

Sound card always comes with driver CD.

Well, yes if you're getting the card brand new but if you're getting from a friend or a second computer or something or off of Amazon Marketplace, then maybe not.
8171.

Solve : y2k again?

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Hello

I have read an essay talking about the y2k.
this is what I have read:

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The scientists predicted that IT systems. ranging from meteorological devices and hospital equipment to data systems
in governments, banks and airports, would fail. It was though embedded systems, which also made use
of data logic, such as utilities and other crucial infrastructure, would collapse too.

What do they mean by embedded systems?
Why didn't that problem do what the scientists predicted?

Thank youYay! Homework!Might not be homework.

Maybe the OP has been in a coma for the past 10 years or stranded on a small island in teh middle of the Pacific and just now rescued.Feras, to answer this question, think back to what Y2K actually was. Why was it feared?

As for embedded systems, Google is very knowledgeable.I started writing an essay on this a few years ago.
I haven't read it over, but if my other essays about USB are any indication it has a lot of errors; the general idea is fairly clear; or it would be, if I finished it.

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Planes falling out of the sky. Computers somehow growing legs and attacking people. Blenders grabbing babies and- I’ll STOP there. No, this isn’t the plot of a old anti-automation movie. It’s what happened when the clocks switched to the year 2000. At least, that’s what the media exploded the whole mess into. The media detonated a simple design oversight into a giant scare that caused people to spend millions of dollars on supplies they didn’t need.

   What sparked the controversy? Well, the original problem was simple, and would have never caused any difficulty. The problem was the way programs interpret date input. Everything will go fine, as long as you entered the century portion of the date, as in March 22nd, 2006. But, (in older computers) If you entered in in mm-dd-yy format, the computer would assume 19 for the century part. (Essentially, the simple solution would be to simply enter the century portion). Of course, the media added all sorts of it’s own effects to this simple problem. For example, planes would fall out of the sky. Supposedly, the schedules would roll-over to 1900, and apparently the plane would notice the date change, and since the flight wasn’t scheduled, the planes computer would force it the crash. Whoever thought of this deserves some kind of medal for being the stupidest human being on the entire planet. First off, if this were the case, we wouldn’t need airplane pilots, since the plane obviously knows how to fly itself. Secondly, the plane’s on-board computer probably doesn’t even keep track of the date at all. The simple statement of a simple “bug” (to be frank, it isn’t a problem at all. In fact, it’s simply a limitation of representing dates using 2-digit years. If computers where designed to overcome this limitation, (by tacking a 20 on the front instead) we would face the same difficulty, except it would be when attempting to enter a 20th century date. Of course, the moment the media got a hold of anything that could happen when the clocks rolled over, they bloated the entire thing out of proportion. Although this was probably the result of a few passes through people- word of mouth. People would add stuff onto it. For example: assume  “Computers may have difficulty dealing with dates using two-digit centuries.After the year 2000” Was the original quote. A reporter takes this in, and send it to their editor (changing it) as “Computers may have problems handling dates after the year 2000”. The editor gets a hold of this sentence, and publishes it in the paper as “Year 2000 poses problem for computers”. Since the actual detail from the original quote has all but disappeared, readers are forced to fill in the blanks. The only people that fill it out correctly are programmers or hardware designers who are already aware of the problem, and understand how very insignificant it is. Others however, fill it in with the worst thing they can think of. Computer users- people who use computers, but don’t program them, and thus don’t understand exactly how they represent dates - make assumptions, and assume that the computer doesn’t even store the century part of date- that the mm-dd-yy format is the native format that the computer uses for dates, and that it simply places “19” in front of the year and converts the month to a string. They end up with the effect that computers will wrap around to 1900. The whole situation was more of a testament to how many people are less computer-literate than they think than it is a huge controversy that will kill millions when computers rise up, devouring human flesh while displaying prompts such as “please cut off your ear and place it in your floppy disk drive. Press any key to continue...”. Who was blamed for this crisis? Of course, the only people who actually understood all the fodder the media had been pumping out. The result? Their 100% accurate solution of “just enter the century portion of the date” was not only instantly attributed to their desire to leave the spotlight, but also scoffed upon by “experts” (these experts are the people who originally made the assumption that computers store year information using 2-digits). The experts were heroes. They pointed out to the media that programmers and hardware designers were setting the world up for disaster, and made them out to be a group of evil supervillians. Of course, the public ate this up. If January 1st 2000 wasn’t going to be “judgement day” by golly, then people had better die. These are the very same people who believe that people in positions of power where not only chosen by certain supernatural entities but that they actually have a IQ larger than a THIRD their weight. The entire fiasco was simply a statement that a large number of people are still as scared of computers as they where in the 60’s and 70’s. In the computing industry, all was CALM, until the people from the other side CAME in and founded several companies completely dedicated to look for “Y2K compliance” in applications and hardware, and declared “Standards” that must be met to me Y2K compliant. Of course, the empty-headed people in charge of government where in the same league (mostly) as those who founded those companies (who really have zero liability. What purpose could they serve after the year 2000 and what kind of ethics could they show it their very purpose is extinguished after the year 2000? This is like a company that sells vehicles simply going out of business once they reached a certain productive peak, leaving tens of thousands of people with 30000 dollar lemons. This is the similiar situation with aforementioned Y2K compliance institutions. These companies were a scam from the beginning- unlike a normal scam, however, this one was backed by the government.

Hello

Thank you
the essay is good 

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Yay! Homework!

In my school we don't study any thing related to the computer --> it is not a homework
the computer is my hobby
8172.

Solve : I'm losing my browsers....?

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Six months ago, I suddenly lost the ability to open IE7.  Each attempt gave the response..."The instruction at "0x018f084" refenced memory at  "same". The memory could not be written. Click OK to terminate."

 Every attempt gave a different number in the quotes. I searched the net for a solution and found none (didn't post here), though I did find people with the same problem. Eventually, I gave up and uninstalled IE7. Attempted to install IE8. seemed to go OK until I restarted, whereupon I momentarily saw the same error message above.

So, I switched to Mozilla Firefox and was happy until today when I lost it, too. I get only "The application failed to intialize properly (0x0000005). Click OK to terminate the application." I found a user on the Mozilla help forum with EXACTLY the same symptoms. We've gotten no help there. One responder kept referring us to fixes for "Firefox crashing", apparently unable to understand it's not crashing; we can't open it.

Meanwhile I attempted unsuccessfully to download Opera. I get "failed for invalid access to memory location."

I'm left only with Netscape 8 which, ironically, I discovered today has been rendered EXTINCT due to their inability to compete with the other browsers.

Does anyone have any similar experience or suggestions for help? thanks, Mike. Quote from: crowstalker on April 09, 2009, 08:58:20 PM

Six months ago, I suddenly lost the ability to open IE7.  Each attempt gave the response..."The instruction at "0x018f084" refenced memory at  "same". The memory could not be written. Click OK to terminate."

 Every attempt gave a different number in the quotes. I searched the net for a solution and found none (didn't post here), though I did find people with the same problem. Eventually, I gave up and uninstalled IE7. Attempted to install IE8. seemed to go OK until I restarted, whereupon I momentarily saw the same error message above.

So, I switched to Mozilla Firefox and was happy until today when I lost it, too. I get only "The application failed to intialize properly (0x0000005). Click OK to terminate the application." I found a user on the Mozilla help forum with EXACTLY the same symptoms. We've gotten no help there. One responder kept referring us to fixes for "Firefox crashing", apparently unable to understand it's not crashing; we can't open it.

Meanwhile I attempted unsuccessfully to download Opera. I get "failed for invalid access to memory location."

I'm left only with Netscape 8 which, ironically, I discovered today has been rendered extinct due to their inability to compete with the other browsers.

Does anyone have any similar experience or suggestions for help? thanks, Mike.
Please post,
Operating system:
Laptop or Desktop:
Age of computer (approx.):
Disk space:
RAM:

And any other information that might be usefull.Have you run a memory test on your system?

You may have a bad RAM chip

look for the free download memtest it can check your RAM for problems.

Quote from: Helpmeh on April 10, 2009, 07:08:29 AM
Please post,
Operating system:
Laptop or Desktop:
Age of computer (approx.):
Disk space:
RAM:

And any other information that might be usefull.

I'll second that... HOWEVER, all your error messages suggest problems trying to access memory LOCATIONS so it could be a problem/fault with your memory...

Try this free software to test your memory:

www.custom-it.co.uk/pub/MemTest.zip Quote from: Helpmeh on April 10, 2009, 07:08:29 AM
Please post,
Operating system:
Laptop or Desktop:
Age of computer (approx.):
Disk space:
RAM:

And any other information that might be usefull.

Thanks for the replies. Don't know how long I can hang on....things are getting worse. 

I have Windows XP Media center Edition 2005 on a
desktop HP Pavilion , 4 years old max
Right now I can open every folder in my control panel except the System folder....I get an audio, but no visual.
It's a 1 GB memory and 200GB hard drive and I can tell you I had tons of space when I last looked. If I lost a lot of memory, it's in recent WEEKS and it wasn't through normal use. I haven't intentionally loaded anything new and my normal usage is just web surfing, email and photography. I've backed up everything I want that I've accumulated over 4 years and it amounts to only 45 GB on my backup drive.

Today, Netscape is a little funky now for the FIRST time (it's always been a little slow to open, but quick enough after that). It tries to open multiple sessions and when I tried to log off my open webmail , it told me it couldn't find the website, or any other that I tried. I had to close the browser and reopen it to get here.

After trying several times to open my system folder, I gave up but had trouble closing the control panel folder. After it did, I got 3 new error messages...

1) Explorer.exe Application Error. The instruction at "*****" referenced memory at "*****", etc.

2) Then, Dr. Watson Postmortem Debugger has encountered a problem and needs to close, etc. 

3) Followed by, Error loading C:\WINDOWS\system32\sysdm.cpl
Invalid access to memory location.

For a long time, the only symptoms were connected to web browsers; it seems to have spread now.

I appreciate the help and hope I can get back to access it. Thanks, Mike
8173.

Solve : Drop-down boxes/ End of Solitaire?

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I'm a court reporter, and I use a special software called CaseCatalyst to edit my transcripts.  I just bought the software, and during training, my trainer noticed that certain drop-down boxes only stay open for 1-2 seconds, if they even open at all.  I'm supposed to hit T on my computer which allows me to edit a certain word, and the software will have a drop-down box that will auto-suggest the word I'm trying to edit.  This box is SUPPOSED to pop up automatically once I hit "T", but even CLICKING the "suggest" box only opens it for the 1-2 seconds, then closes.  I called the techincal support and they told me it was something with my computer.

I also noticed that after winning a game of Solitaire, the cards scatter for about 1-2 seconds, and then it automatically goes to the "Play Again?" box.  I have a feeling these are both part of the same issue, and I have no idea how to resolve it. 

Any suggestions?  I'd really appreciate it.

-Andreaif the computer is a laptop, I wonder if there are some "HELPFUL" keyboard or touchpad settings which have been enabled, and I wonder if these things happen if an external keyboard and mouse are plugged in and used.

I am not a laptop expert, and I wouldn't really know how to proceed if you found that the problems you DESCRIBED went away with an external KB & mouse, but at LEAST you would have narrowed it down a bit.
 It is a laptop, a Dell Vostro 1000 to be exact.  I wouldn't even know what the keypad settings should be on, but I don't use an external mouse and never have.  The software trainer tried looking at my settings and didn't see anything out of the ordinary.  If anyone had any other suggestions I'd really appreciate it!

-Andrea Quote from: amrinker on April 09, 2009, 03:25:46 PM

I wouldn't even know what the keypad settings should be on, but I don't use an external mouse and never have.

What I MEANT was, plug in an ordinary keyboard and mouse and see if it still happens. Another idea is to join one of the steno boards and ask people who use the software daily.
8174.

Solve : Why do apps wake XP from standby??

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Hello to all. I've been struggling with the problem of my computer resuming from standby when I don't want it to. I'm running XP Pro SP3. What I want is for the computer to go into S3 state - fans off, hard disks off, session saved to RAM - and stay there until I press a key. But when I put it into Standby, it wakes up after a period ranging from a few minutes to an hour or so.

I've followed all the advice one finds when searching the forums for this problem. I've done the usual checks of the BIOS settings and USB device settings. The next step seems to be to find any resident process that sends commands that cause the system to wake up - for example, I disabled Norton Antivirus's LiveUpdate feature. That seemed to work for a while... But the problem always returns. I've run antivirus and malware scans. I even tried disabling AutoSave in Word and automatic e-mail checking in Outlook Express (these are the two applications I have running 95% of the time - plus FireFox). Still no happiness...

But then I got to thinking: Maybe I'm missing the whole point of the thinking behind the S3 standby state.
To me, logically, when I put the system on Standby I want it to stay that way. I want it to do things like check for updates and e-mail when it's running, which to me means after I press a button - be it the ON button or a key on the keyboard when it's in S3 state. I don't want applications deciding when to wake the system up, unless I expressly tell them to. Logically, not only should hardware be programmable to wake or not wake the computer, but so should software. MCE (which I'm not running on this computer) needs to do that, of course, to record TV, but that still boils down to the user *telling* it to wake up and record a certain program, and then go back to sleep.

So my question is, is my thinking wrong? Am I asking too much in expecting the computer to go to sleep when I tell it to, and wake up when I tell it to? Or am i doing something wrong? It seems to me that if I have to disable anti-virus updating, automatic document saves, and e-mail checks, I might as well go ahead and hibernate or shut the cotton-pickin' computer down.

What's the point of S3 standby state, after all?I RECOMMEND replacing norton with a real AV program.

chances are Norton is causing the issue; even with updates turned off.Thanks for answering. So you agree that in general, apps shouldn't bring a system out of S3 standby? I'm not being unreasonable in my demands? Quote from: lestertrad on February 25, 2009, 03:37:52 AM

Thanks for answering. So you agree that in general, apps shouldn't bring a system out of S3 standby? I'm not being unreasonable in my demands?

no- you aren't. As you said, that's kind of the point! 

In fact- technically software programs cannot bring it out of sleep/standby.

Did you disable Wake on Lan (WOL) in your BIOS?<
Aha! I was going to mention that. Yes, I did, and I also disabled it in Device Manager. I notice that ALL of the advice being given out about this problem starts by telling you to disable Wake On Lan. But wait a minute - what if somebody actually wants Wake On Lan, wants their computer to wake when a packet is addressed to it... but ONLY then? It seems to me there's a general admission that WOL just plain doesn't work in XP.

From there I started to draw the conclusion that maybe Standby is also in this same CATEGORY of features that simply don't work right and never will (but isn't XP supposed to be fully mature now?)

Meanwhile, I've eliminated Outlook Express as the culprit. So, as you suggest, maybe Norton is at fault after all. But won't other AV suites do the same thing?Other AVs might, but Norton digs itself deep into everything, hooking function calls, attaching to everything- including power events.


If it's any consolation the power management on my laptop while running XP is despicable. It will sleep, and wake-up... but the CPU stays at 16Mhz as opposed to 2Ghz... NOT fun...


It's not that WOL doesn't work with XP but rather that the whole premise behind WOL is flawed. Since routers/hubs broadcast all packets, each network adapter receives the packets- and needs to turn the computer on before being able to investigate the Address the packet was destined for. At which point it's a little late to stay asleep.

WOL was first created a long time ago and I haven't seen it work properly ever.

Another possibility is malware...I'm currently on a trial of Norton. Before that I used Kaspersky, and before that, Nod32. I'm open to any SUGGESTIONS as to what to try next (for a FULL security suite that lets you get your hands under the hood and gives you some idea of what it's doing).

What I'll do is eliminate other possible causes, then replace Norton and see if it makes a difference. I hope it's not impossible to uninstall...

You mean your CPU is at 16 mHz while asleep and then stays that way when it wakes up?
My long running package:
AVG FREE

Spybot

AdAware

Stnger ( on demand trojan scan )

Win Patrol

MBAM

This has kept me infection free for years now...all of the above are FREE.

P.S. Do you have any HP products on that machine ? ? Also deeply rooted as Norton is and they LOVE to phone home 100 times a day...If it's not laptop, I'd advice to forget about Windows power saving features altogether.

Votum separatum on AVG/Spybot/Ad-aware here.Thanks. Did you incude a link? I didn't get it. (I'd like to read any threads comparing AV suites).

This morning when I CAME down, my computer had gone into Standby and stayed there until I pressed a key. Exactly the behavior I want. Now if only I could find out what's waking it up sometimes. I'll continue experimenting.

________________ Later - Not working again

Was working great for a while, then I installed the two latest XP security updates, and it quit working. I uninstalled them, but it did no good. Now the 'puter wakes after about five minutes, even with no applications running (except Norton). I'll continue experimenting (including disabling Norton) and report back.After spending a lot of time eliminating applications and services, I found out that this is a recognized bug in my motherboard (Intel DG45ID). Intel's tech support proposes a solution - just unplug the network cable. Believe it or not, that's what they told me.

It's time to review Intel's reputation as a serious motherboard maker.
8175.

Solve : Internet Exployer 7 not responding?

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My internet exployer 7 isn't responding,but can get on internet with opera.Do I need to uninstall internet expoyer and reinstall,and do I uninstall  it before I reinstall it.Everytime I click on internet exployer,comp seems to freeze up and have to go to list manager to get out of it,then I can go to opera to get on comp,or should I download Internet Exployer 8.I have a desktop with windows XP Home edition.
Thanks,Hi,

1. Open Control Panel
2. Internet Options
3. Click on Advanced tab.
4. Uncheck "Enable third party browser extension".
5. Check the option "Disable Script Debugging(Internet Explorer)".
6. Click  on OK.
7. Close and open Internet Explorer.

Regards

Sykes Did you try resetting internet explorer?

Here is microsoft's solution for doing that ... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737

As for getting internet explorer 8, there are new tools like the privacy browsing mode that you might like at times and ie7 will someday become obsolete and microsoft will no longer be updating it via windows update since ie8 will have been their standard.
Thanks guys ,it WORKED.Both of you have given great answers,as My comp is working fine once again because of both of you.Only question is,do you think I should get IE 8,is it better than IE 7 ?I think IE8 is better than IE7 personally, but you gotta try it out to see if you think so too.

InPrivate browsing --- prevent IE from saving cookies, browsing history or anything else that others can use to see what you've been doing on the net.

Compatibility mode for webpages that worked fine on older browser but are not working or don't look right on new one.

Those are the two biggies of IE8 but other features are there.

It's up to you if you want to switch, I think IE8 is decent, in terms of what Microsoft is doing  and so maybe try it out and see if you like the new features. The basics between IE7 and IE8 are still the same in terms of going to the sites you normally like to visit but the new features and look are the things to try out. And if for any reason IE7 seems better than IE8 for you, then uninstall IE8 and go back to using IE7.Ok will go try and see.Thanks again for your help.
Thanks, Hi,

Glad to know that WE were able to help you.

regards

Sykes     Sorry guys ,but after doing as you said about UNCHECKING the enable 3rd party extensions and placing a check by the disable script BUGGING my IE 7 will go to each site much better,but I've lost all of my tool bars.If I must uninstall IE7 and reinstall it,do I have to uninstall the existing one before I can reinstall? Quote from: smstock1 on April 05, 2009, 02:15:59 PM

    Sorry guys ,but after doing as you said about unchecking the enable 3rd party extensions and placing a check by the disable script bugging my IE 7 will go to each site much better,but I've lost all of my tool bars.If I must uninstall IE7 and reinstall it,do I have to uninstall the existing one before I can reinstall?

Do you mean toolbars or the Menu Help and those buttons? If so then right click on where the toolbars where and select MENUBAR and then the menubar come up. If its not that then. Uninstall IE7 or IE8 and then go on Opera or FF if you have another Browser and then go to the Microsoft site and download IE8 or IE7. And it should work.I mean toolbars.I had google,and a couple more tool bars and they're still in programs ,but when I search for them in tools not showing,and not showing in browser bar either.Are you a tech on here,or just a guest? Quote from: smstock1 on April 05, 2009, 04:40:25 PM
I mean toolbars.I had google,and a couple more tool bars and they're still in programs ,but when I search for them in tools not showing,and not showing in browser bar either.Are you a tech on here,or just a guest?

I am not a tech on here and nor a guest. But I am a member wanting to help people with their questions.    Glad to hear this site has others trying to help all of us( beginners),so do you think I will need to reinstall IE7.Will I have to reinstall my tool bars again also.Do you think there is any other possible way of fixing this problem without reinstalling IE7,as most sites recommending IE8,but many people say there is a lot of problems with IE8 Quote from: smstock1 on April 05, 2009, 06:21:53 PM
    Glad to hear this site has others trying to help all of us( beginners),so do you think I will need to reinstall IE7.Will I have to reinstall my tool bars again also.Do you think there is any other possible way of fixing this problem without reinstalling IE7,as most sites recommending IE8,but many people say there is a lot of problems with IE8

There are some, And I don't think there is a way to fix it without reinstalling IE7.   Sykes ,will you please tell me what to do,as after I did what you said  on SECOND reply above,my comp worked ok,but lost my tool bars,and so I went back and changed it back like it was and tool bars came back.Is there any other way to fix this without having to reinstall IE7Anyone on this site answering questions about computers,have waited several days for a reply.
8176.

Solve : gray screen?

Answer»

am having problem with my laptop model . it powers up but with a gray screen, so i cannot view anything. i TRIED hp support but to no avail . although LATER in the day i had unplugged everything for about an hour and it started up for about 10 minutes,, this morning it is doing the same thing,..  any ideas.. they had me TAKE out battery, power off,, strike keys,,, etc...      any suggestions other than turning everything off for the day then trying when  i get home ..
thanks. TRY plugging it into a external monitor a cable might have come lose or if that does not work it could be your ram.
Hope this helps.Is there a port on the laptop which allows you to plug in a desktop monitor?  Do you have an available monitor which you can plug in to try to see if you get a display on the monitor?  This will help show if the builit in video card is properly PROCESSING a signal.  Then you'll know if it's something with the laptop's display, itself.

8177.

Solve : duplicates?

Answer»

I DOWNLOADED (win utilities) and used the find duplicates utility. does anyone know of a site that will check the results and let me know which ones to delete.A SIMPLE answer is to just leave any duplicate file finder alone unless you are 120% sure what you are doing. These tools are actually worse than registry cleaners when it comes to making computers unbootable. 

Just WALK away... Plenty other ways to free up space if you're interested.
Quote from: evilfantasy on March 22, 2009, 09:05:57 PM

Just walk away...

PUT your hands in the air and back away from the computer.  wow, I have lots of duplicates in this "dllcache" folder... and even more in WinsXs- heck those are old versions! don't need those anymore!  Quote
even more in WinsXs- heck those are old versions! don't need those anymore!

What do they contain?old versions of Dlls for older programs to link to

for EXAMPLE, windows XP has a new "comctl32.dll" for showing all the fancy stuff in listviews and treeviews and so forth; but unless a program specifically requests version 6 with a manifest, Windows XP will dynamically link it to version 5, which is in WinsXs. (windows Side-by-side, I believe that stands for).

the reason being that if they linked every app to version 6 there would be a LOT of broken programs.OK, that's cool. 

I hadn't messed much with those -- not even to look.

Thanks!You may have an important system file that without it Windows will not boot. Say it is 2MB. You may also have a file that is in the Recycle Bin that is exactly 2MB. A duplicate finder not only might but will delete the system file and leave the recycle bin file. Result = No more booting to Windows...Getting rid of duplicate files to clean up a system is the most twisted way to create havoc instead of Free disk space.....

However...carry on.Maybe, it already happened, since the OP is MiA
8178.

Solve : How do I get my files from a crashed Computer?

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I had a Emachines T3958.  The mother board crashed.  I bought an external case and cable for the CPU, but I can not retrieve the data files on it.  The Emachines had a pass WORD but I am not given the opportunity to enter it.  I am "denied" access to the files. 

Is there a METHOD available to access the files from the old CPU?

THANKS HunterIf it was your machine and you did some work on it how did you lose the BIOS password ? ?
Just curious...Hunter - WELCOME to the CH forums.

Quote

I bought an external case and cable for the CPU....  Is there a method available to access the files from the old CPU?

Do you really mean Hard Drive instead of CPU?   If you can access your hard drive via a usb connection on your second pc then you MAY have to take ownership of folders/files in order to access them.  Please click here.

Good luck.

p.s. I'm not sure what Patio's "bios password" response refers to, he'll probably be back to clarify.
8179.

Solve : Program opens in taskbar but doesnt show?

Answer»

Hi i am having trouble with my internet EXPLORER. It opens and shows up in the taskbar but you can't SEE it and you can't do anything but close it.Do you just see a white box when you open it?
What VERSION of internet explorer are you using? Like 6 or 7 or 8...
Did you make any CHANGES to your computer right before this started?

8180.

Solve : ENVIRONMENTAL VARIABLES?

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Sir,here are some BASIC quistions on computer language:
1) what is "environmental variable" ?
2)where should I USE them in a path ?
3)what is the GENERAL FORMAT and SYNTAX ?
       Wth regards spdCHFGoogle has the answers -

http://vlaurie.com/computers2/Articles/environment.htm

8181.

Solve : Still a problem.?

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I have a pent lll 750 mb of ram. I just loaded a new XP os on a new hard drive, I also loaded Kaspersky 09. I loaded my old Office 2000, when I went to update SECURITY to LOAD updates I got the message:" Expected version was not found on your machine." When I do a scan with Kaspersky I get positives for detections for anything from dangerous to moderate -all Office parameters. .Thanks for any consideration. I thought of something else today - I POSTED this yesterday- my board is MAYBE 9 years old, my new hard drive is 160 gigs, maybe the bios can't see/work with that much space. I don't know the relationship to the BIOS and the Office Security install: if the configuration to install the update is dependent on bios parameters? Thanks for the consideration of considering my problem.Googled your problem and>>>>

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Expected+version+was+not+found+on+your+machine.&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=

Especially http://support.microsoft.com/kb/837826

Good luck.You have the same machine in 3 different posts...
Topic Closed.
Please see your other thread for replies...

8182.

Solve : Installing DOD 6.2?

Answer»

I m USING XP Professional 2005with sp2. Inbuilt dos version is 5.1. How can
I use DOS 6.2? Can I download dos 6.2 and install it? Will it hamper the
EXISTING installed softwares in XP? Please help me with PROPER suggessions.
Its very urgent
                                                                                THANKS
                                                                              devduttaaDouble PostActually his other Post is about installing DOS....this one is about installing DOD....
Not sure what it is but Topic CLOSED.

8183.

Solve : Remove Nview.dll GPU Library Pointer from roaming user profiles?

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Our business has a bunch of users who move between computers with roaming profiles on WINDOWS XP Pro SP3 workstations. Some users had some Toshiba laptops with integrated NVidia GeForce GPUs and drivers. These users log on to the workstations without the NVidia GPU and get a message stating "Error Loading nview.dll" every time they logon to systems without the NVidia GPU.

In the past when this has happened, I have tombstoned the users profile and created a new profile and set the laptops as local profile only to avoid that profile from making its way out to the other workstations.

Now a Group Policy went across by a higher up and it flipped the local profiles on those laptops to replicate to the workstations again and I am looking for an easier solution than having to tombstone and reinitialize about 20 users.

Anyone know of any tools or techniques to REMOVE the DLL Library pointers from profiles to save me from all this lengthy work rebuilding profiles?

Thanks,

Dave

8184.

Solve : Playing video files with a .?

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Help me with a ,so that I can PLAY several video files with a suitable media player, such as VLC Media player or other.
 With HOPE,            .what is a ""? Is it LIKE a batch file? If so, why write it like that?

To the resourse persons.
 SIR/MADAM, I need a "batch file", opening which I can enjoy my favorite  videos that are prelisted in the "batch file",I would change the list according to my mood. I also request you that the corresponding video player would close automatically after playing my selected videos.
 With hope to LEARN little by little from the generous, I remaim 'spdCHF'.

8185.

Solve : Lost hard drive data?

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Hey there I have a hard drive that has some data that SEAMS to be lost is there a way for me to retrieve that data?What do you mean by "lost"? How did you lose your data? WHATS the whole ISSUE?  We need more information in order to HELP you

8186.

Solve : USB Help/Problems?

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Ok, thanks to a virus, I had to format/reinstall Windows XP Pro. Got all the service packs updated, and finished. I didn't even have time to back up anything at all, except for a SMALL collection of FILES on my 1 GB Lexar USB Jumpdrive.

Now, the problem I'm having is it will not RECOGNIZE the jump drive as a jump drive. Every time I plug it in, it kicks back "Local Drive: D" (the other two drives are C:\ the main, and I: the restore drive, the optional ones are Removable Disk E, F, G and H, and the DVD and CD Drives). Looking under properties when plugged in, it lists 990 MB, 28 MB used.

I've TRIED to INSTALL the drivers, and it took a long while before it even recognized the USB stick (the whole "This is not a HI-Speed connection problem), but now, even on other PCs, it kicks back that the USB stick is a local drive. Any help, please? I can stand having to rebuild the files I had on the PC, but the USB stick had some stuff I was working on.Can you access the flash drive when it is listed as a local drive?I had a really old computer, and it takes about 30 secs for a flash drive to be called a removable disk.I have a 65 Chevy that does that as well.....

8187.

Solve : Can I fix my file access problem without completely wipeing my hard drive??

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My laptop had an issue with the power button which is now fixed. Before I sent it out for repair, I had to pull out the hard drive & move files to the desktop we had to buy for the interim. While I was moving the files, I had problems with getting files as my ACCOUNT (admin) had a password. After some fiddling, I won.

The problem: Now that I have the laptop back, when I try to sign in to my account, it says that there's an error & that it will give me default access. NONE of the programs come up when I click on the Programs arrow. Also, MS Office seems to have disappeared from sight in the other account as well. It still functions when I open a Word DOCUMENT, so it's around somewhere, but I don't see it.

I would just wipe the hard drive & start over, but I'm worried that if I do, something else will go wrong. So far, everything else has.

Thank you!You should have no problem copying data files. However, program executables are a different isuue.  You can not just move them,  you will have to re-install each program.

Sorry for the SAD news.I'm not worried about any of the other programs. Just worried about XP. It was INSTALLED on the computer when I bought it, so I don't have an actual physical copy of it, like everything else.

The system recovery discs ought to have XP on them since it was a part of the system then, right?Companies have different ways of providing recovery DISKS fro customers. Some  provide a CD to restores the computer back to the factory fresh condition. But it also overwrites any data the the user has on the internal hated disk disk.
Therefore, you first must save personal data and setting on a removable media, such as a DVD-R, if your computer has a DVD burner.

8188.

Solve : memory problem?

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right well i have no idea about computers btw!
but im sooo raged right now...

ok so my c drive has like no memory and ive moved everything i could into my d drive as my d drive has hundreds of space...
but it still says like 24mb or kb dunno... (what order does kb, mb go in?)
so then.. i started to get pissed off and deleted some stuff thats meant to keep itunes running... now my itunes wont uninstall cause it has files missing or whatever
so how do i delete itunes, also how can i change where program files like msn is saved.... so i could save it on my d drive?

also it said i couldnt uninstall things because i have no memory but its also saying to gain memory uninstall program files grrr *censored*'s goin on

i have an eee pc 901 or something ...running on xp ....does that HELP?

PLEASEE helppppp
Use Revo Uninstallerhow can i instal it if i have no memory .....
i dont know how to download it to my d driveTry the following:
Go to Start ----- Control Panel ---- Add or Remove Programs
Chose a program that you want to un install and when you click once on a program on the right side of it you will SEE a BUTTON Change/remove, just click on it and follow the steps.
1Byte=1bit
1kB=1024B
1MB=1024kB and so on.
Cheers.like i said it says i dont have enough memory to uninstall programs via control panal...add/remove programs and i cant install revo uninstaller because i have no memory to install it - i have lots of memory in my d drive just dont know how to install things into there...You're confusing memory with hard drive space....
Right click your C:\ drive in My Computer select Properties and report back with how much free space and total capacity are...well like i said i know f.all about computers
on my c drive i have 59.1mb free and 3.72gb used
on my d drive i have 7.01gb free and 7.50gb usedTime to INVEST in a larger hard drive...I'm amazed Windows even runs on that C: drive...
How long has it been like this ? ?Half of C is being used for the OS...if XP is installed on it.

You can install the Revo Uninstaller if you install it on the D: drive.

However, you have other problems...like getting a larger hard drive.

8189.

Solve : Windows explorer plugins!?

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Hello there,
Recently i have tried a number of file managers for windows in order to find out something better.Although there are vastly superior file managers (Xplorer2,Directory Opus,FreeCommander,TOTAL Commander,Explorer ++) compared to windows explorer i have long GET USED to it and it's hard to learn anything new.

That's why i am currently searching for a plugin for windows explorer (windows XP) which i can configure to make a list of favourite directories.

Take for example Explorer ++ :



I find the feature of having a configurable list of my hdd's and any other directories GREAT!

Also i would like to ask if anyone knows any plugin to add tabbed interface to windows explorer.And if it's not a trouble please share any useful plugins/shells you like!

Thanks in advance As far as tabbed interface for windows explorer is related i have found QTTabBar.Although it's not perfect it is very user friendly!

8190.

Solve : Unable to open some web pages and use some basic pc functions?

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PC was dragging. Read online about McAfee Plus slowing down puters a lot, so I decided to uninstall it. While I was in Add/Remove Progs I decided to remove some Java Runtime Environment updates too. Not sure if one or both messed me up, but my pc is acting all out of whack. Some web pages load, some dont. Some buttons on web pages work, some dont. ALSO some pc functions, like Restore (from Start Programs Accessories SYSTEM Tools Restore) does not work at all. I wanted to Restore system to a week back, but I can't get to it. I even tried to get to Restore from Safe Boot, but it comes up blank.  I've tried a ton of troubleshoot stuff: reloaded Java, IE7, ran Disk Clean-up, DEfrag, etc.  Nothing. Still stuck. Thought I would tap into you fine group of experts before going to PC Doctor. Thanks.try to search in start menu the items you have uninstalled and see if they mayhave sliiped some place else as well they can b slippery little suckers and hide around corners i have NOTICED ! also CHECK bottom LEFT hand corner of your screen above start menu and see if it shows done/ but with errors ..on the pages that give you have problems to access you may see a yellow exclamation mark there too do this after you search uninstall files     you will still need java script for other variations as well ! and i do hope the info you provide will save you some $$ rather than pay $70-90 for a doctor do little to do little.

8191.

Solve : Help me with rundll32 problem?

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Help. When I Downloaded Windows Live Messenger Downloader And Installed Windows Live Messenger My Rundll32's Type Of File Became Wlsetup-web(Name Of The Downloader). How Can I Make Rundll32 Into Its Original Type Of File?Where did you DLoad it from ? ?
What exactly are the error messages you are getting if any ? ?

More info...Every Program Opens With Run as. Tons Of Setups Don't Work.




Here Ya Go...UHH Which Should I Click?I Tryed Them All And The Problem Was Fixed THANK You Soooooooooooooooooooo MuchThe "RUNDLL32" Problem is one of the most interesting problem one can come across.There are two solution for u.
1.Scan ur hdd disk for virus,sometime the problem is virus related.
2.Reload all the dll files through Recovery Console.If the above two doesnt solve ur problem,then there is only one alternative and i.e is to reinstall the OS.
All the best.
the problem had nothing to do with rundll32 and was merely an accidental association that was made on executables- this was also the reason setups weren't working.

Executable files are normally associated with themselves; IE their default command is "%1" %*. Obviously using the shift key on a context menu and an open with followed by "always open with this program" CHECKBOX will CAUSE the file to be loaded into that program. in this case if was the windows live setup program which will SIMPLY quit if it's arguments are confusing.

8192.

Solve : Log in password nightmare!?

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Hi, I lost the password to access my computer, and I can't log into windows since. And all my important files are in the computer. PLS can anyone tell me how to breakthrough this nightmare and can "safe mode" SOLVE the problem?do NOT double post. see my reply in your other thread. The first link I GAVE is to a CH document on the issue.

Less then 30 seconds between your two TOPICS. How fast were you expecting a reply? Or was it an ACCIDENT?

8193.

Solve : Several registry entries hijacked?

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My computer RECENTLY picked up some kind of virus that went by vrta.tmp. This virus is gone, thank to several searches and sweeps of my hard DRIVE. However, it left me with and odd problem. It seems to have gone into my registry and changed the ImagePath data entries to several important services to C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\VRTA.tmp. The result is I no longer have sound, internet, and a few other things, those being the two most important. I figured I could simply change them BACK to the correct targets, for example audiosrv.dll for the Audio Service, but I get a ERROR 193: 0xc1 message.This applies to everything but the Plug and Play service, which worked fine when I changed it. I suspect this may have something to do with it being an .exe file, and most of the rest being .dll. I've tried downloading and replacing the files, I've tried moving them to the desktop and retargetting the ImagePath data entry there, and tried looking for a file on my C drive called 'program' which many online sources suggested may be the problem, but no luck. I'm still soundless, internetless, can't access the Event Log, System Restore, or many, many other services...help?
Thanks in advance.
Oh, and I'm RUNNING Windows Xp Pro on a Dell Inspiron 1100.So does that mean the system restore does not work at all?
And you do not have a backup of your registry?
Are the lost services just for a specific user?
If so, you can find the right values in the registry for another user.System restore may work, but I seem to be lacking in restore points, possibly something else the virus did before I killed it. No backup of my registry, and I just tried logging on to another user and oddly enough got nothing but a blank screen, like when Explorer shuts down.
I don't think it's a case of the right registry values either. If I point the Imagepath data entry at the wrong thing it actually say Error: file not FOUND. It's when I actually match it to the correct file it gives me Error 193. Sounds like a wipe and reinstall to me 

Might try using this...instead of the unreliable System Restore.

http://www.snapfiles.com/get/erunt.html
 
Alan <><  Run the system file checker. Click Start then Run and type in  sfc /scannow
Have you XP CD ready - it will ask for it.

If that doesn't work, and you are hesitant to do a clean install, then you can boot to the recovery console to build a new registry. You will have to boot to the XP disk and  press R to enter the recovery console. Then select the installation of XP you want to repair. If you only have one installation of XP on your computer type 1 and press enter. You will then be prompted for the password. If you don't have a password, just press enter here. We want to get to the root directory here so type in: cd\
You should now just see a standard C prompt.

Now use these command to restore a registry. This will build a new registry. Your registry is corrupted so we will have to build a new one.
Code: [Select]delete c:\windows\system32\config\system
delete c:\windows\system32\config\software
delete c:\windows\system32\config\sam
delete c:\windows\system32\config\security
delete c:\windows\system32\config\default

copy c:\windows\repair\system c:\windows\system32\config\system
copy c:\windows\repair\software c:\windows\system32\config\software
copy c:\windows\repair\sam c:\windows\system32\config\sam
copy c:\windows\repair\security c:\windows\system32\config\security
copy c:\windows\repair\default c:\windows\system32\config\default
Good Luck

8194.

Solve : block site?

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any one can help me, FRIENDSTER was block in my PC  how to restore it, my os is xp, thnx.....  Does this have anything to do with your VIRUS PROBLEM?

8195.

Solve : Tonnes of "black screen" advice, but nothing helps!?

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Morning all,

I've got a Dell Inspiron laptop and it won't work - I'm having black screen problems (as are a trillion other computer users ACCORDING to all the searches I've done for help online!)

However, all the advice seems to apply only to those that can basically get their computer switched on (in Safe mode or whatever), or those who have their Windows XP discs.

My problem = I switch my computer on, get the Microsoft Windows loading screen and then a black screen with my mouse pointer icon. This remains till I hold down the power button.

* I don't have any Windows XP CD's as Dell provide all that online only.
* When I've tried F8 during start up, I get all the necessary text but none of the 'Safe Mode' options make any difference...still a black screen (but with the addition of "Safe Mode" text around the top and bottom of screen
* I've tried the 'F12>Diagnostics' test but this hasn't made any difference. 
* I then tried calling Dell - my warranty expired in November 08, which I'm sure they hadn't warned me about...in fact when I asked them why they hadn't reminded me they said "we tried to call you" ?!?!?! Anyway, they then charged me £25 to...? Guess what...run the same diagnostics check again! As that threw nothing up they said they'd NEED to pass the ENQUIRY on to the software dept but I'd face another charge of around £60!! There ended the phonecall.
 
So, can you help?! I can't get Windows loaded to try any commands and feel pretty useless...and this coming from someone who felt pretty confident with using computers and technical stuff.

Big cheers,

Zanzibub

Hi!Why dont u scan ur laptop's hard disk once for virus.It may not be possible for u to scan since ur not able to start ur machine,i would recommend if u can can remove ur hdd and scan it with the help of ur friends computer.Then Try once.Thanks 'tobydorji' - as you say, I can't even get my computer to a stage where I can scan the hard drive. I have no idea how I would remove my HD and get a friend to scan it, but I'll do some asking around. Does control+Alt+Delete bring up task manager at that point?

I take it "safe mode command prompt" doesn't work either?

try this, it's the "recovery Console" disk for windows XP- try performing a repair install from there:

http://www.thecomputerparamedic.com/files/rc.iso



if repair doesn't work, you can do a system restore from the recovery console prompt:

Quote


Sometimes I screwed up my machine so bad, that i couldnt boot into windows anymore, not even safe mode. So i looked around for ages and eventually found out how to do it in the recovery console. For anyone who is new to windows, the recovery console can be found by booting up your machine with the XP CD in the drive, and booting off of that CD. Then it will ask you if you want to go to the recovery console, and select that option. The recovery console is basically a MS DOS command prompt, with a little more functionality.

When you get to the recovery console follow these instructions.

    * Type CD\ then Enter
    * Then cd system~1\_resto~1 then Enter
    * Type dir then Enter

When you hit enter it will list all the restore points folders like rp1, rp2 …….. If the restore points have more than one page then u have to keep on hitting the <Enter> key to view the last restore point folder. You will have to choose the second to last option folder

    * Type cd rp {the second to the last restore point no. } (Note: Example: cd rp9, if rp9 is the second to the last restore point where the last restore point no. is 10
    * Then type cd snapshot

Now the command prompt will look like this c:\system~1\_resto~1\rp9\snapshot

    * Type: copy _registry_machine_system c:\windows\system32\config\system
    * Press enter
    * Then type: copy _registry_machine_software c:\windows\system32\config\software

Then type EXIT

...

If you get an access denied error when doing the above, then do the following at the recovery console:

Type CD\ then press Enter
Type cd windows\system32\config then press Enter
Type ren system system.bak then press Enter
Type exist press Enter

Your PC will reboot, go back into the Recovery Console and then you have access

If you still cannot get access in anyway to your installation in the recovery console then your SAM database files are corrupt. There is no way you can restore these with the recovery console. You may need to do a fresh install
For me try reformatting your computer. Your only problem is you don't have the xp INSTALLER and the drivers cd for the motherboard.
8196.

Solve : Controlling ftp server in batch?

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Hello everyone,

I just set up an FTP SERVER on my COMPUTER, using the IIS (you KNOW, btw: i'm running windows xP professional). And I was WONDERING, can I use a batch file to automaticly send files to my computer from any other windows computer, this could come out usefull at school.

Does ANYBODY have experience with this and maybe wants to help me on how to do this? I know there is a FTP server command in cmd but still I don't know how toget files from another location onto my computer.

Thanks,Doesn't anyone have experience with this?

8197.

Solve : Cant reformat..?

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any1 can HELP me solve this problem?my problem is when i wan format my PC,then it appear the blue screen that write there say chkdsk,and i have been try but still cant ,do any1 know ??You formatted your computer? What EXACTLY did you do? Quote from: Carbon Dudeoxide on March 31, 2009, 03:39:56 AM

You formatted your computer? What exactly did you do?

His probrem is when he wan format his pc. Do pay attention! Don't you know how to wan format a pc?

Oh? A wan format? My bad!

Wow, I haven't heard of a wan format since.....never.  Quote
wan

Only one letter missing  so the real question is, does any1 know how.

Quote from: BC_Programmer on March 31, 2009, 04:26:50 AM
so the real question is, does any1 know how.



When it appear the blue screen that say chkdsk, then failed maybe the harrdddrive has.
Quote from: DIAS de verano on March 31, 2009, 04:36:36 AM
harrdddrive

Now thats just overddoing it. LOL Quote from: Carbon Dudeoxide on March 31, 2009, 05:52:28 AM
Now thats just overddoing it. LOL

You ain't seen my harrdddrive, baby.
8198.

Solve : formatting XP computer?

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Hello there.
I have XP SP2 installed in my computer. Which has a partitioned hard DRIVE. Drive C is 9GB and Dive H is 150GB. I get constantly reminders that C drive is full.
Unfortunately I haven't got a floppy drive, otherwise I could use F-Disk to work with the partitions. I have windows installed in Drive C but I can also see a windows FOLDER in drive H.
Does anybody know of a free program which allows to merge these TWO partitions in a dingle partition. Or even give me some hints on how to do this.
I realise I may lose programs in doing so.
I have tried the windows XP SP2 disk but it cannot upgrade nor repair as the message comes that there is insufficient space on C drive.
At present I have 7GB free on Crive C and 150GB free on Drive H.
Regards
Bert
So you have your windows disk?
You can use that disk to repartition your drive.
Do you have your data backed up?Why don't you just use the xp installer disk and there you can find the option saying partition your hard drive, delete this partition, etc.That's what I tried with the Windows XP disk, but it keeps on saying that there isn't enough room on my C drive (ALTHOUGH I have 7Gb free. And I have to delete files. I cannot get it to access my other partition which is over 140Gb. Although there is a windows file as WELL, which I cannot even open nor delete.

Bert.

8199.

Solve : My replies to emails are being seen by recipient as written in Greek language?

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I use att yahoo.com for email. Lately my replies to emails sent to me are coming back to the sender in the Greek language. It seems to be a perfect translation of the english to greek. I type it at my end and it comes out in english, but the recipient sees the greek. Apple computers seem not to be affected, except when they push the "PRINT" ICON on their mail page.  If they use File-Print function it works ok.  I checked Encoding and my mail is using Automatic-default.  My default print is New Times Roman.This has to be a setting on the recepients side mate. Your computer cannot translate perfect English to Greek. It's impossible. Quote from: Mulreay on March 28, 2009, 07:59:05 PM

This has to be a setting on the recepients side mate. Your computer cannot translate perfect English to Greek. It's impossible.

Or even English to perfect Greek.



Examples or it ain't so.
Quote from: bushwacker on March 28, 2009, 05:06:40 PM
It seems to be a perfect translation of the english to greek.

You do know this? From a Greek speaker? Someone fluent ENOUGH in both languages to know a "perfect" translation when they see it?

Quote from: bushwacker on March 29, 2009, 02:16:18 PM
yes but what is my problem?

I am doubtful that what you describe is really happening. I wonder if you are trolling teasing us?

Please give examples. I already ASKED this.

1. Ask somebody to send you an email.
2. Reply to it.
3. Ask them to forward the reply back to you if it arrived in Greek.
4. Copy and paste your English reply and the Greek one here.






Well, maybe you should call your ISP. Or somebody is pulling your leg.

What computer do lyou have?
Is it the surviving Hall-2001?when I try to print from Word for DOS using the HP laserjet driver to my epson printer, I get greek. Unless I install the font cartridge- if I do that I get a Lagos variant of a sub-african pygmy tribes language. Of course they haven't a written form for their language so the printer is actually making the sound via various beep tones.

Overseas I end up with english, wonder if this is a similar scenario. Quote
Overseas I end up with english, wonder if this is a similar scenario.
Need to update your font cart.
Overseas they now speak Brit, not English. Quote from: Geek-9pm on March 29, 2009, 02:50:36 PM
Need to update your font cart.
Overseas they now speak Brit, not English.

err...

not ALL of overseas.

Greece is overseas too  It depends which side the sea you're on. Quote from: SuperDave on March 29, 2009, 06:44:11 PM
It depends which side the sea you're on.

that too. To quote a old computer book-

"when I try to print all I get is greek"

if trying to print something to your printer results in greek, (or, for overseas readers, if trying to print something to your printer results in english)...
8200.

Solve : MCI Error?

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I am receiving MCI Error: "All wave devices that can play files in the CURRENT format are in use.  Wait until a wave device is free, then try again" in MS POWER POINT.  The problem results in .wav sound clips not playing in Power Point.
OS - XP SP3 - 3gb - Intel Core 2
MS HotFix does not apply to SP3 that was suppose to correct the problem.
Problem occurs with only one .wav sound file of less than 100MB.
Have tested sound card successfully.
.wav file does play in MEDIA Player.
Have MOVED the Power Point file to two other computers and can successfully replicate the problem.
I have MS tech support on it but after more than 96 hours they have not yet arrived at a solution.  Other computers using same OS.

FYI - this deficiency was prevalent in SP1 and SP2 and the HotFix allowed for a modification to the registry.  SP3 does not accept the same modification - or, at least, I haven't been successful - but the HotFix reads that is does not apply to SP3.


Any ideas?  Your help greatly appreciated!